#Occupy

[DJ FC]

I say that as a joke. Blonde you need to accept that good people can be rich or poor. Rich people can be good or bad. And poor people can be good or bad. Your assumptions about what a rich person must be like are not founded in reality.

[DDTempest]

Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

I say you'll never get it in the exact same way the likes of you and FC would say to me that i'll never get it. My point is that we really are diametrically opposed here and there is no real way that either of us is ever going to see each other's side as the other sees it. Because of how we were raised and brought up and whatever educational background and life experiences I will never see things how you do, and you will never see things how I do.

Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

I'm entitled to my opinion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just pointing out some irony for those of you guys not paying attention here.

[Mr. Blonde]

My point is that we really are diametrically opposed here and there is no real way that either of us is ever going to see each other's side as the other sees it.

Just pointing out your lack of reading comprehension skills here. I never claimed that the above statement proved or validated anything, or that he was taking it away.

[Mr. Blonde]

Originally Posted by DJ FC

I say that as a joke. Blonde you need to accept that good people can be rich or poor. Rich people can be good or bad. And poor people can be good or bad. Your assumptions about what a rich person must be like are not founded in reality.

You have probably experienced far more nice rich people than I have. Do you deny this? If almost every rich person you have ever met in your life is almost entirely separate from reality (no matter what their past background is....) and is in general a pompous, selfish douche, how do you expect me to look at them?

No really, how?

[DJ FC]

Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

You have probably experienced far more nice rich people than I have. Do you deny this? If almost every rich person you have ever met in your life is almost entirely separate from reality (no matter what their past background is....) and is in general a pompous, selfish douche, how do you expect me to look at them?

No really, how?

In my opinion, wealth is slightly positively correlated with being a good, quality person, and not the opposite. I think you're only seeing the obnoxious stereotypical rich people here. Integrity, honesty, and intelligence will naturally lead people to be successful. And wealth is often a by-product of success. If a person is a murderer/rapist they aren't going to become terrifically wealthy. Most negative qualities lead to failure. And most wealthy people aren't pompous, selfish douches, but you are seeing the world from some sort of extremely jaded view.

[thekremlin]

FC is bysexual.

EDIT: This post made sense when he spelled the word "bi-product"

[Mr. Blonde]

Originally Posted by DJ FC

In my opinion, rich people are better than poor people. Don't get rich until you're 50 or 60? You did not have good integrity, honesty, and intelligence before then. You just had a bunch of negative qualities.

Your attitude is why I don't like rich people.

[thekremlin]

Did he actually say that or is it a paraphrase?

[DJ FC]

I'm talking about correlation. A small positive correlation.

[Mr. Blonde]

You would say that though, wouldn't you?

[DJ FC]

First of all, I'm not rich. I took everything I had and bought my parents a house. I have fucking credit card debt for Christ's sake.

And I could equally say the same about you, anyways.


The difference between us is I don't presume anything negative about poor people, whereas you presume lots of negative things about wealthy people.

[thekremlin]

In other news, with today being a big occupy london day, our streets are overrun with... policemen.

[Ironic Mustache]

Bobbies. You're overrun with bobbies.

[thekremlin]

I wish!

[Ironic Mustache]

I said bobbies not boobies.

[thekremlin]

My first real understanding of what money was comes from legos. I remember being a little kid in the store and asking my parents to buy me lego kit after lego kit. "No," they would say, "you can't have them all because legos cost money." I resolved, that some day, if I ever had $100 dollars, I would buy a fuckload of legos. I consider myself rich because if I wanted to, I could buy all the legos I wanted.

[Ugly Bastard]

My first awareness of money came from buying packs of 1989 NFL Pro Set football cards with my Dad. They were $0.50 a pack. After I realized how awesome it was to open a pack and look at all the pictures and stats of the players, I wanted to keep opening more packs. This is when I hit the money wall and was told that there was a limit to how many packs I could buy/open.

If I liquidated all of my net worth today into buying packs of 1989 NFL Pro Set football cards, I could spend 8 hours a day opening packs and not run out of packs to open for a month. That is why I am rich.

[THEINCREDIBLEdork]

Blonde, serious question. Where do you meet rich people? It's hard for me to believe youve had much experience with people with wealth considering you grew up on afarm and have spent most of your life in muncie or with korean school children.

[Saint DH]

I'm assuming that most of his interaction with wealthy people comes from that with their sons or daughters. I mean, that's assuming there are at least one or two wealthy people in that peasantville you come from. These children have had everything given to them and earned nothing. Therefore they mostly do exhibit this douchebaggy, arrogant attitude of entitlement and what not. It seems like each generation further the children get from the man who started the company or earned the wealth or whatever, the more douchebaggy they become.

[THEINCREDIBLEdork]

So this all stems from getting bullied in school. Got it.

[DJ FC]

Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard

My first awareness of money came from buying packs of 1989 NFL Pro Set football cards with my Dad. They were $0.50 a pack. After I realized how awesome it was to open a pack and look at all the pictures and stats of the players, I wanted to keep opening more packs. This is when I hit the money wall and was told that there was a limit to how many packs I could buy/open.

If I liquidated all of my net worth today into buying packs of 1989 NFL Pro Set football cards, I could spend 8 hours a day opening packs and not run out of packs to open for a month. That is why I am rich.

When I was in Chicago I got a cab to work one extremely cold winter morning. The cab driver started talking to me about what I do and where I'm from and I in turn inquired about him. He was from a not-so-rich part of Africa.

Keep in mind, that for me to be telling a story about a simple conversation with a cab driver at 5am during the Chicago winter 4 years ago it must have meant something very significant. In fact, what he was about to tell me has stuck with me and will stick with me until I die.

"In America, everybody is rich!" Said the African immigrant. I asked him how that was so, given that wealth, by most people's standards, is relative.

"In America, I can have a beer EVERY DAY."

[Ironic Mustache]

Dirty Harry since you're the resident accountant, can you explain to me briefly estate taxes? I'm curious because I had to write a very large check to the IRS and it pissed me off. Why did I pay taxes on money that was already taxed once?

Blonde: I'm actually asking here, so please at least hold your rabble rabbles until he replies.

[Saint DH]

Estates are subject to two different taxes (sometimes three). The income generated from the estate is taxed as income and the estate tax is levied when the estate is transferred to the heir(s). It is a tax on the right to pass property at death. Some states also have an inheritance tax, but that's a state government thing, and it's levied on the recipient of the estate.

The estate tax is pretty fucked imo. From what I gather, the only rationale for its existence is to cut down on the amount of wealth that is transferred to an individual's heirs.

From my tax book: the [estate] tax was originally intended to prevent large concentrations of wealth from being kept within a family for many generations.

[Beebs]

I can't tell if you are actually curious or if this is rhetorical.
#tomates.

[Saint DH]

Well now that you mention it, I'm not sure either.