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Mr. Blonde · 09-17-2010, 01:59 AM

Refuting the myth that Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists - Birmingham atheism | Examiner.com

Repugnant Abomination · 09-17-2010, 02:25 AM

Whether these men were Atheists or not doesn't matter. I get so tired of this specific argument, this back and forth battle between believers and non-believers. One camp says blood has been shed because of God, the other camp says blood has been shed because of a lack of God. I think they're both right. So then the argument becomes, which belief system has a greater capacity for murder? Which one is more predisposed towards bloodshed? The focus should be on humanity itself. The truth is that Man has a great capacity for good and evil, and neither one requires God. Inversely, man can do good or evil things because of God.

Obviously it's an important debate in terms of analyzing history, though.

Repugnant Abomination · 09-17-2010, 02:26 AM

Double post.

And just for the record, I'm not challenging the claims made in Stefanelli's article.

Mr. Blonde · 09-17-2010, 02:49 AM

I agree, but it's unfortunately a necessary argument to be made in response to believers trying to cast all the evils of the world on atheists. You know, like when the Pope likens them to Nazis.

Der Fuhrer · 09-17-2010, 12:01 PM

I think everyone can agree that the pope, and this pope specifically, is an asshole.

DDTempest · 09-17-2010, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Der Fuhrer

I think everyone can agree that the pope, and this pope specifically, is an asshole.

He is German, and did Blitzkrieg a Polish Pope to death ...

Der Fuhrer · 09-18-2010, 01:28 AM

He also criticized the financial industry for their lack of ethical behavior in the past. Yet his institution is notorious for molesting little boys.

Mr. Blonde · 09-18-2010, 02:22 PM

Thanks for nothing, Dent, FC, and Kremlin (aka fuckheads)

Protest the Pope rally sees 10,000 march through London's streets | World news | guardian.co.uk

Mr. Blonde · 09-19-2010, 03:32 AM

YouTube

Mr. Blonde · 09-21-2010, 02:56 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer_(DC_Comics)

Mr. Blonde · 09-28-2010, 04:59 AM

Atheists, agnostics most knowledgeable about religion, survey says - KSTU

angry pancake · 09-28-2010, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

Atheists, agnostics most knowledgeable about religion, survey says - KSTU

Fuck me lubeless. I just came here to post this.

Der Fuhrer · 09-29-2010, 03:50 AM

If God were a super-villain, who would he be?

This is a difficult philosophical question to answer as there are many viable options. In the end I'm going to have to go with The Riddler. At first I was inclined to say The Joker because of God's clearly twisted sense of humor and love for destruction. Then I got to thinking, God really isn't as "in your face" as The Joker is. He is also very mysterious (non existent), but he leaves little clues or riddles around to fuck with us, much like The Riddler does to his victims. The Riddler also has a serious god-complex in that he might just think he is God. Perhaps I'm missing something here, but The Riddler seems to be a good fit for God. God is The Riddler from the Batman comics.

(just kidding I"m god)

Fruitacious B · 09-29-2010, 09:26 PM

Religion Pigeon

Beebs · 09-30-2010, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Der Fuhrer

If God were a super-villain, who would he be?

This is a difficult philosophical question to answer as there are many viable options. In the end I'm going to have to go with The Riddler. At first I was inclined to say The Joker because of God's clearly twisted sense of humor and love for destruction. Then I got to thinking, God really isn't as "in your face" as The Joker is. He is also very mysterious (non existent), but he leaves little clues or riddles around to fuck with us, much like The Riddler does to his victims. The Riddler also has a serious god-complex in that he might just think he is God. Perhaps I'm missing something here, but The Riddler seems to be a good fit for God. God is The Riddler from the Batman comics.

(just kidding I"m god)

I would say the Joker, his violence is random.

Compare the boat scene in the dark knight, to say setting up the holocaust.

"See, I told you these people were fucked"

If he could possibly exist, he would be the most evil force in the history of the universe.

Fruitacious B · 10-08-2010, 05:33 PM

Found on my facebook News Feed today, and I'm at a loss. That profile picture was taken at the wailing wall as well, so he's trying to be inspirational, despite my impression toward the opposite.

Der Fuhrer · 10-08-2010, 05:52 PM

I am really sick of seeing people with status updates that quote scripture or spout off about how great god is and how much he loves me. Fuck that shit. Especially when it's someone I know from high school who was a huge fucking asshole to everyone. It's really disappointing that I don't see more blasphemy on facebook, since it's inherently evil. Maybe I'll change that.

Orgazmo · 10-08-2010, 05:54 PM

Name the huge prick please.

Der Fuhrer · 10-08-2010, 06:09 PM

Obviously BDH is a prime example.

But it's not limited to one single individual. Nearly every single person I know from high school who is now a "devout" christian was either an asshole or a slut or both. BDH was both.

Der Fuhrer · 10-08-2010, 07:14 PM

I don't want to rag on BDH though, because I like the guy, and he can live his life however the fuck he wants to.

It should be noted that he was cool as fuck back then. I remember having lunch with Mr. BDH, and each day he would go to the "snack shack" to get a frosted honeybun. Each day he would walk up to this old lady and ask her for a frosted honeybun that had "jizz all over it". He would make her show him several different honeybuns before he found one that he deemed, "looks like it had been cummed all over". I think I almost got him in trouble one time because he was going on and on to this old lady about the cum on his honeybun and I just lost it and started busting up.

Der Fuhrer · 10-09-2010, 02:51 AM

YouTube

Ugly Bastard · 10-09-2010, 08:48 AM

That honeybun story is the funniest thing I've heard in a month.

Walked up to a bar last night. Dude behind the counter had a big Jesus cross necklace. ESPNNEWS was on and who the fuck wants to watch that, so I asked him to change it to Reds-Phillies game. "I can't," he tells me, "these TVs are fixed on this." Damn... that's ridiculous. I order a drink anyway while waiting for my gf to meet me. She shows up, I tell her TV story but she kind of misunderstands and gets the guy's attention so she can ask him to change it for me (not totally realizing I just told her that he can't). I let this go on anyway though. Cuzintino's response? "Sure ma'am," as he grabs the remote right behind the bar, "what channel?" It took me a couple seconds to believe what I was seeing, but once I did, I said to him, "what happened to five minutes ago when you weren't able to change the channel?" He looked at me like someone who obviously knew they just got caught in a lie and was trying to cover it up, "I said that?" "Yea man, I asked you [reenact entire convo we had right in his face]". He maintained his aloofness. I pulled back the $5 tip I left him on the bar and told him to put it on TBS and stayed there for a while ordering drink after complicated drink and pocketing the exact change right in his face because fuck him. Moral of this story is that I believe if I had asked any atheist bartender to change channel in that situation, they would have obliged. But someone who lives their life by the guidance of an imaginary friend? Anything is fair game.

Mr. Blonde · 10-09-2010, 10:38 AM

What a fuck. That doesn't even make sense.

BigDongedHoe · 10-10-2010, 05:18 PM

I've had a few people say I was an asshole in high school. I must of totally missed that memo cause I thought I was a nicer guy back then than I am now.

I forgot about the honeybun thing. I'd ask her for cummed on honeybuns everyday. I think I brought up them dripping down in the corners of the bag. In retrospect I guess that is pretty assholish!

Question: Why is it if somebody posts scripture in their status updates it's offending to you but If somebody posts something that is anti religious its not offending?

Mr. Blonde · 10-10-2010, 07:09 PM

Everything is offensive to somebody. Question is irrelevant.

09-17-2010, 01:59 AM	#851 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	Refuting the myth that Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists - Birmingham atheism \| Examiner.com
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

09-17-2010, 02:25 AM	#852 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 161638	Whether these men were Atheists or not doesn't matter. I get so tired of this specific argument, this back and forth battle between believers and non-believers. One camp says blood has been shed because of God, the other camp says blood has been shed because of a lack of God. I think they're both right. So then the argument becomes, which belief system has a greater capacity for murder? Which one is more predisposed towards bloodshed? The focus should be on humanity itself. The truth is that Man has a great capacity for good and evil, and neither one requires God. Inversely, man can do good or evil things because of God. Obviously it's an important debate in terms of analyzing history, though.
	Last edited by Repugnant Abomination; 09-17-2010 at 02:32 AM.

09-17-2010, 02:49 AM	#854 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	I agree, but it's unfortunately a necessary argument to be made in response to believers trying to cast all the evils of the world on atheists. You know, like when the Pope likens them to Nazis.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

09-18-2010, 02:22 PM	#858 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	Thanks for nothing, Dent, FC, and Kremlin (aka fuckheads) Protest the Pope rally sees 10,000 march through London's streets \| World news \| guardian.co.uk
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

09-21-2010, 02:56 AM	#860 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer_(DC_Comics)
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

09-17-2010, 02:26 AM	#853 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 161638	Double post. And just for the record, I'm not challenging the claims made in Stefanelli's article.

09-17-2010, 12:01 PM	#855 (permalink)
Der Fuhrer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 549 Internets: 5464	I think everyone can agree that the pope, and this pope specifically, is an asshole.

09-18-2010, 01:28 AM	#857 (permalink)
Der Fuhrer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 549 Internets: 5464	He also criticized the financial industry for their lack of ethical behavior in the past. Yet his institution is notorious for molesting little boys.

09-28-2010, 04:59 AM	#861 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	Atheists, agnostics most knowledgeable about religion, survey says - KSTU
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

09-29-2010, 03:50 AM	#863 (permalink)
Der Fuhrer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 549 Internets: 5464	If God were a super-villain, who would he be? This is a difficult philosophical question to answer as there are many viable options. In the end I'm going to have to go with The Riddler. At first I was inclined to say The Joker because of God's clearly twisted sense of humor and love for destruction. Then I got to thinking, God really isn't as "in your face" as The Joker is. He is also very mysterious (non existent), but he leaves little clues or riddles around to fuck with us, much like The Riddler does to his victims. The Riddler also has a serious god-complex in that he might just think he is God. Perhaps I'm missing something here, but The Riddler seems to be a good fit for God. God is The Riddler from the Batman comics. (just kidding I"m god)

09-29-2010, 09:26 PM	#864 (permalink)
Fruitacious B Bokononist Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,595 Internets: 11801	Religion Pigeon
	"Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand." \|vonnegut

10-08-2010, 05:33 PM	#866 (permalink)
Fruitacious B Bokononist Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,595 Internets: 11801	Found on my facebook News Feed today, and I'm at a loss. That profile picture was taken at the wailing wall as well, so he's trying to be inspirational, despite my impression toward the opposite.
	"Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand." \|vonnegut

10-08-2010, 05:52 PM	#867 (permalink)
Der Fuhrer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 549 Internets: 5464	I am really sick of seeing people with status updates that quote scripture or spout off about how great god is and how much he loves me. Fuck that shit. Especially when it's someone I know from high school who was a huge fucking asshole to everyone. It's really disappointing that I don't see more blasphemy on facebook, since it's inherently evil. Maybe I'll change that.

10-08-2010, 05:54 PM	#868 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,668 Internets: 305662	Name the huge prick please.

10-08-2010, 06:09 PM	#869 (permalink)
Der Fuhrer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 549 Internets: 5464	Obviously BDH is a prime example. But it's not limited to one single individual. Nearly every single person I know from high school who is now a "devout" christian was either an asshole or a slut or both. BDH was both.

10-08-2010, 07:14 PM	#870 (permalink)
Der Fuhrer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 549 Internets: 5464	I don't want to rag on BDH though, because I like the guy, and he can live his life however the fuck he wants to. It should be noted that he was cool as fuck back then. I remember having lunch with Mr. BDH, and each day he would go to the "snack shack" to get a frosted honeybun. Each day he would walk up to this old lady and ask her for a frosted honeybun that had "jizz all over it". He would make her show him several different honeybuns before he found one that he deemed, "looks like it had been cummed all over". I think I almost got him in trouble one time because he was going on and on to this old lady about the cum on his honeybun and I just lost it and started busting up.

10-09-2010, 08:48 AM	#872 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	That honeybun story is the funniest thing I've heard in a month. Walked up to a bar last night. Dude behind the counter had a big Jesus cross necklace. ESPNNEWS was on and who the fuck wants to watch that, so I asked him to change it to Reds-Phillies game. "I can't," he tells me, "these TVs are fixed on this." Damn... that's ridiculous. I order a drink anyway while waiting for my gf to meet me. She shows up, I tell her TV story but she kind of misunderstands and gets the guy's attention so she can ask him to change it for me (not totally realizing I just told her that he can't). I let this go on anyway though. Cuzintino's response? "Sure ma'am," as he grabs the remote right behind the bar, "what channel?" It took me a couple seconds to believe what I was seeing, but once I did, I said to him, "what happened to five minutes ago when you weren't able to change the channel?" He looked at me like someone who obviously knew they just got caught in a lie and was trying to cover it up, "I said that?" "Yea man, I asked you [reenact entire convo we had right in his face]". He maintained his aloofness. I pulled back the $5 tip I left him on the bar and told him to put it on TBS and stayed there for a while ordering drink after complicated drink and pocketing the exact change right in his face because fuck him. Moral of this story is that I believe if I had asked any atheist bartender to change channel in that situation, they would have obliged. But someone who lives their life by the guidance of an imaginary friend? Anything is fair game.

10-09-2010, 10:38 AM	#873 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	What a fuck. That doesn't even make sense.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

10-10-2010, 05:18 PM	#874 (permalink)
BigDongedHoe Sex Kitten Milf fuuucck Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,704 Internets: 55974	I've had a few people say I was an asshole in high school. I must of totally missed that memo cause I thought I was a nicer guy back then than I am now. I forgot about the honeybun thing. I'd ask her for cummed on honeybuns everyday. I think I brought up them dripping down in the corners of the bag. In retrospect I guess that is pretty assholish! Question: Why is it if somebody posts scripture in their status updates it's offending to you but If somebody posts something that is anti religious its not offending?
	There's life and then there is Cubs baseball, it's a chore to seperate the two. Last edited by BigDongedHoe; 10-10-2010 at 07:22 PM.

10-10-2010, 07:09 PM	#875 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	Everything is offensive to somebody. Question is irrelevant.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

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