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Unread 04-26-2010, 02:37 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Alcohol is NOT a drug (I consider a drug something that has addiction.) Please don't make me link another south park episode.
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Dude what has happened to you?

You've become the forum moron.


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There is nothing addictive in alcohol. People can control it, if they wish. Most just don't want to and like to blame a "disease" (which is as ludicrous) because saps fall for it. To me, it's groups like AA that feed off of idiots who would rather play dumb and helpless than take control of their lives. It's easier to be ignorant and claim you're a victim than admit you have a problem that you aren't strong enough to control. This is just like the guy I cited in the "only in religion" thread who is using religion as a cop-out for his lack of taking responsibility in his own life and to just stop smoking weed on his own.
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Dude just shut up.

You're being so stupid.

Honestly you're pissing me off because I used to respect a lot of things you'd say but now you're spewing garbage.


The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them.
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Dude just shut up.

You're being so stupid.

Honestly you're pissing me off because I used to respect a lot of things you'd say but now you're spewing garbage.
Instead of just telling me to shut up and negrepping me for the same reasons, why don't you actually tell me why you disagree with me. If I'm wrong, I'll learn. Otherwise, you're just coming off as an elitist who is too good to say anything more than "just shut up."
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There is nothing addictive in alcohol. People can control it, if they wish. Most just don't want to and like to blame a "disease" (which is as ludicrous) because saps fall for it. To me, it's groups like AA that feed off of idiots who would rather play dumb and helpless than take control of their lives. It's easier to be ignorant and claim you're a victim than admit you have a problem that you aren't strong enough to control. This is just like the guy I cited in the "only in religion" thread who is using religion as a cop-out for his lack of taking responsibility in his own life and to just stop smoking weed on his own.
I can't believe how stupid you are Gayve. Growing up with an alcoholic in my family for all 25 years of my life you are so wrong its unbelievable. Why do alcoholics get the shakes when they don't drink? I suppose thats just them not "controlling their lives" right?

I'm honestly am completely dumbfounded to how stupid you sound right now.

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Instead of just telling me to shut up and negrepping me for the same reasons, why don't you actually tell me why you disagree with me. If I'm wrong, I'll learn. Otherwise, you're just coming off as an elitist who is too good to say anything more than "just shut up."
He's probably saying it because what you're saying is so incredibly stupid it barely warrants a response.

There's life and then there is Cubs baseball, it's a chore to seperate the two.
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Instead of just telling me to shut up and negrepping me for the same reasons, why don't you actually tell me why you disagree with me. If I'm wrong, I'll learn. Otherwise, you're just coming off as an elitist who is too good to say anything more than "just shut up."

A wise man once told me don't argue with fools because people from a distance can't tell who is who.


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I can't believe how stupid you are Gayve. Growing up with an alcoholic in my family for all 25 years of my life you are so wrong its unbelievable. Why do alcoholics get the shakes when they don't drink? I suppose thats just them not "controlling their lives" right?

I'm honestly am completely dumbfounded to how stupid you sound right now.
Very true BDH. True alcoholics can't function without alcohol... we call this dependency or addiction. There's a major difference between being a lush and being an actual alcoholic as well, but alcoholism is a VERY real thing.

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Alcoholics use alcohol to cope with stress. They become psychologically dependent on alcohol. Their psychological dependence can manifest itself physically during withdrawal.

It can be prevented or corrected by a measure of control. There are those that cannot do it themselves and need help. If you need help, get it. Nothing wrong with that.
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Alcohol would fit your description then; you can have severe seizures or even die from alcohol withdrawal. It's not hard to argue alcohol is the most serious physical dependency, barbiturate withdrawal can be deadly to, and Benzo withdrawl can cause seizures, but a full fledged heroin addict might wish he was dead, but he won't actually die from withdrawal, the full fledged alcoholic might; they will almost certainly go through terrible physical symptoms.

People do use it differently than other drugs due to the way it fits into society, but when people get drunk, it's undeniably a drug.

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There is nothing addictive in alcohol. People can control it, if they wish. Most just don't want to and like to blame a "disease" (which is as ludicrous) because saps fall for it. To me, it's groups like AA that feed off of idiots who would rather play dumb and helpless than take control of their lives. It's easier to be ignorant and claim you're a victim than admit you have a problem that you aren't strong enough to control. This is just like the guy I cited in the "only in religion" thread who is using religion as a cop-out for his lack of taking responsibility in his own life and to just stop smoking weed on his own.
You really have a poor understanding of basic medicine.

There is nothing in alcohol, alcohol is alcohol. Alcohol is physically addictive, so if alcohol isn't addictive, by your incredibly misguided standards, nothing is. So even if you discount all the mental aspects, it undeniably forms a tolerance and physical addiction and goes into physical withdrawal if the person stops drinking. So if you really are ready to throw out all the non physical aspects, that means there is no such thing as a coke addict, or a meth addict, which is a hard argument to make.

Even though, as I said, alcohol withdrawal can fucking kill you.

So really, do you think that anything is addictive, or that anything is a drug? Are these just made up words?
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Drug: something and often an illegal substance that causes addiction, habituation, or a marked change in consciousness

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Clearly, alcohol causes a marked change in consciousness, thus making it a drug according to the Merriam Webster dictionary. But hell, alcohol is a blast when it's used in moderation, and better yet it's a legal drug for those over the age of 21. So let's all stop fighting and get wasted!

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Unwanted beauty tips aside, good to see a new member back. I think for the most part we won't abuse the shit out of you like we did before. What made you come back?
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