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Old 09-15-2013, 12:56 PM   #651 (permalink)
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How many successful spin offs have there been?

I can't think of a single one.

Makes me very sad that I can't participate in this seasons bb discussions.
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Burn Notice ended its 7 year run last Thursday.

My heart hangs heavy in its wake. Hands down one of the most consistently entertaining shows on television. At least I still have the final season to look forward to on Netflix. Currently finishing up the sixth season.
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Burn Notice was a great show. Each episode felt like a self-contained movie with just a fuzz of week-to-week storyline (which grew as the series neared the end).

Without giving any spoilers, the finale last Thursday was extremely fulfilling. A great way for it to end.
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You guys watch too much television.

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Tonight's Breaking Bad....jesus christ.

Also, I noticed that the opening credits didn't start until 19:40 into the episode, which has got to set some kind of record.
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Agreed.

Regarding the Saul spin-off. If it has plenty of Mike and possibly Gus, it could be good to go. I like Saul, but he's a best-in-small-doses kinda character.
Agree Saul is much better in small doses, I'm not sure if basing spin-off's off such over-the-top characters is a good idea in general. I mean, look at Joey.

Would be cool to have every episode be a new criminal story (or another longish one, similar to BB style), and Sauls part in it?

Actually I am not sure this spin-off is a good idea.
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Walt's frantic drive out to where he buried his money was a cartoonish deviation from his typical calculated self. I also don't buy that he is as greedy as portrayed in that scene. It was a hasty downfall of Walt to get on with the remaining plot and zomfg I can't wait.
I think the main point of that scene, as Gaz mentioned, was to highlight how egomanical he has become, and again, how much of his identity is tied up with that money in his head.

Although I disagree that he isn't as greedy as portrayed. Actually, I'm not sure. I can't tell whether Season 5 has been more about greed or ego. Things get pretty grey at this intensity level.
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Breaking Bad is ridiculous. I just want to call my Mom and tell her I love her after watching that most recent episode.
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+1

Which part hit you the hardest? Walt turning on his family (the phone call) or Hank?

Imo, it was Hank's last line to Walt. "You're the smartest guy I know, but you can't see that he made his mind up 10 minutes ago."


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I'm not sure if I misinterpreted your post, but the phonecall was anything but turning on his family. I think it's one of the most noble things he has done during the entire show. I definitely teared up a bit during that whole scene
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Until I read your note, I didn't put together that it was for their protection. I thought he was conflicted, but felt cornered and lashed out.

Now, though... Incredible.
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Seriously, the show is brilliant. The fact that his level of egomaniacal behavior could have just as easily justified the nature of the conversation is proof of that; Walt is so unpredictable right now. I thought he was just being batshit crazy until he does the whimpering version of Skyler on the phone "Oh no wallt you have to stoooopp, it's immoral, it's illegal!!!" They zoom in on Skyler and you can see her being confused.

If you can, watch it again and notice the subtleties in the conversation from Walt. (I just watched it a second time and it was awesome) Pretty much everything he says is in order to construct a version of the story where Skyler was working for him out of fear, being forced to comply. Add in Marie's hope in her sister, and Skyler is pretty much scott-free from a legal perspective.
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Dude fucking excellent points, Blonde. I was with Gaz in having missed that.

But that explains why he appeared to believe her when she said "no" to there being cops. I was thinking Walt was suddenly just dumb as shit for believing that during an Amber Alert scenario Skyler would just be home alone. Makes so much more sense now.

Re: hit hardest, I think it was Hank but not him being killed as I assumed that would be the outcome after last week's cliffhanger (although his last few bits of dialogue were cutting and brilliant) but instead the cloud it put over the rest of the episode with him being dead and Marie and Skyler each coming to terms with that. Like when Skyler gets home and Walt is just... there. How tragic.

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Adding to the conversation thing: You can also see when it clicks to Skyler what's going on and she starts being submissive to Walt, letting him drone on and on. She even asks him directly about Hank even though she already knows the answer.

Also, Walt breaking the phone at the end is a good indicator that he knows the cops are there--another thing I didn't put together during the first viewing.

Other interesting tidbit was Hank being buried in the hole where the money used to be, meaning Walt literally dug Hank's grave.

This show. This show is the best show. This episode is literally rated 10/10 right now on imdb.
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He did say, though "You won't be seeing Hank again" (or something like that), and I took it as him not taking direct responsibility for Hank's death. Of course, I think he knows he's morally responsible, if he didn't actually pull the trigger.

+ 1 to pointing out that about Walt digging Hank's grave, Gaz. I thought it was a simply a great ad-hoc criminal utility thing, but the symbolism behind it is pretty chilling too.
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Fantastic episode. Can't wait for the final two.
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Anybody else watch The Newsroom? I've enjoyed it through the first two seasons.
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Looked like a lot of Jew propaganda to me.
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Breaking Bad thoughts for last couple episodes: The lottery ticket that Walt has, which used to represent his entire fortune, now marks the grave of his brother in law.

Also, (and i'm hoping they don't do this) -- what if the last 5 minutes of the episode involves somebody reading off the Powerball/lottery numbers and they match the GPS coordinates? Who will have the ticket?
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Also, (and i'm hoping they don't do this) -- what if the last 5 minutes of the episode involves somebody reading off the Powerball/lottery numbers and they match the GPS coordinates? Who will have the ticket?
I guess this could happen, but its a terrible idea and I want to erase this thought, he still 11 million dollars minus whatever for the identity change?

shitty Breaking Bad thoughts for last couple episodes:
Does Walt even have cancer? there has been hardly any mention of it.
Skyler is a bitch, I don't know what she was playing at with the knife.
Hank was too much of a jobs-worth, Walt said he wasn't in business anymore.
Why would Walt care that he was his in-law?
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Also, (and i'm hoping they don't do this) -- what if the last 5 minutes of the episode involves somebody reading off the Powerball/lottery numbers and they match the GPS coordinates? Who will have the ticket?
Wasn't the code of the GPS on separate lines? Also, that's a terrible idea. Why would anybody GPS lotto numbers? Walt should still have the ticket.
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shitty Breaking Bad thoughts for last couple episodes:
1: Does Walt even have cancer? there has been hardly any mention of it.
2:Skyler is a bitch, I don't know what she was playing at with the knife.
3:Hank was too much of a jobs-worth, Walt said he wasn't in business anymore.
4:Why would Walt care that he was his in-law?
You really are a nit with complaints


1: yes. It's been mentioned several times that its back. The mention of passing out earlier. The talks to hank, "I won't be around for sentencing." Etc.
2: understandable anger w the thought of Walt killing her brother.
3: because cops always take criminals at their word...
4: Walt still considered Hank family.
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You really are a nit with complaints


2: understandable anger w the thought of Walt killing her brother.
1: Skyler is not Hank's sister
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Wasn't the code of the GPS on separate lines? Also, that's a terrible idea. Why would anybody GPS lotto numbers? Walt should still have the ticket.
Just an idea! Who knows if they will actually go that route, I'm kind of hoping they don't, I'd much rather it end up being something I didn't predict.


The winning formula for a show like Breaking Bad is that it masterfully changes who has the upper hand of any given situation at any given time. The "upper hand" shifts so often it keeps you constantly watching to see who will have it next. Brilliant.
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1: Skyler is not Hank's sister
Yeah, I spaced it on that one.


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The winning formula for a show like Breaking Bad is that it masterfully changes who has the upper hand of any given situation at any given time. The "upper hand" shifts so often it keeps you constantly watching to see who will have it next. Brilliant.
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