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Mr. Blonde · 02-21-2011, 12:21 AM

As long as we're talking about Geordi, why did they always have him examine stuff with the different spectrums his visor can see? You'd think they'd be able to implement those same scanners on the ship.

I understand this makes sense in regard to moving the plot forward, but do they ever explain why they send out high level officers from the bridge for their A and B teams? The constant replacing of the first two especially bridge officers (usually Geordi and Data) is kind of annoying.

DJ FC · 02-21-2011, 02:18 AM

You're asking why a director would want the movie stars in as many scenes as possible?

Saint DH · 02-21-2011, 02:35 AM

They usually bring 1 or 2 low level officers with them. So they have two high ranking officers with two peons in case someone has to die.

Have you seen any of the Star Trek movies with the next generation cast? They are all pretty damn good. You should definitely watch them in the order they were released. My favorite would be First Contact. I saw this movie in theaters and it's what actually turned me on to watching the show. One of my favorite movies ever.

Mr. Blonde · 02-21-2011, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ FC

You're asking why a director would want the movie stars in as many scenes as possible?

Well obviously this, but I was just wondering if the show attempted to explain it another way other than suspension of disbelief. They seem to do a pretty good job of that in general.

thekremlin · 02-22-2011, 08:18 AM

Let's go back to the tar creature that killed Tasha Yar. My parents are nerds and I was raised a nerdling, every saturday when I was a kid we all watched TNG together. But the skin of evil episode scared the FUCK out of me. Here was an alien that wasn't at all comical or relatively close too human, just a boogeyman alien. I didn't sleep that night at all, or watch star trek for weeks. Now it should be noted that I was like 5 and had had a similar reaction to "Gremlins 2" but still, when I think of that episode I get the willies. For some reason even the borg didnt elicit this reaction.

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 02-23-2011, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

Well obviously this, but I was just wondering if the show attempted to explain it another way other than suspension of disbelief. They seem to do a pretty good job of that in general.

The Next Generation was all about diplomacy. The Enterprises mission was to explore new worlds and make good relations with other class M planets and high tech civilizations. Why would they send anyone lesser than the most talented staff?

Star Trek is the Utopian mixture of capitalism and democracy. Everyone is equal, but talent and effort is rewarded and given bigger responsibilities.

I thought it was pretty clear that all starfleet officers and members are the top echelon of the human race. Everyone's goal is to better themselves in any way they can. I wouldn't expect a barn rat like you to understand.

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 02-23-2011, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by thekremlin

Let's go back to the tar creature that killed Tasha Yar. My parents are nerds and I was raised a nerdling, every saturday when I was a kid we all watched TNG together. But the skin of evil episode scared the FUCK out of me. Here was an alien that wasn't at all comical or relatively close too human, just a boogeyman alien. I didn't sleep that night at all, or watch star trek for weeks. Now it should be noted that I was like 5 and had had a similar reaction to "Gremlins 2" but still, when I think of that episode I get the willies. For some reason even the borg didnt elicit this reaction.

Season 1 of Next Generation can pretty much be ignored. Season 2 Star Trek became a decent, well-rounded series. Season 3 and beyond it became a masterpiece. I of course give any episode with Q an exception, as every episode he was involved in was golden.

Saint DH · 02-23-2011, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mistoffelees

Everyone's goal is to better themselves in any way they can.

Yes, in the world of star trek, there is no money. People work to better themselves. It's kind of hard to believe at first. You may think, who would clean the shit out of the toilet to better themselves? I think that the human race has become so advanced that most of the lower-skilled jobs have been replaced by computers/robots. The human consciousness has evolved to the point where individuals enjoy working on something to better themselves and the human species. People don't want to sit around jerking off to anime porn all day long.

I would never last in the Star Trek world. I need my anime porn.

Mr. Blonde · 02-23-2011, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mistoffelees

Season 1 of Next Generation can pretty much be ignored. Season 2 Star Trek became a decent, well-rounded series. Season 3 and beyond it became a masterpiece. I of course give any episode with Q an exception, as every episode he was involved in was golden.

Season 1 is kind of ridiculous. I had to turn off the episode of Troi's onboard wedding with the bickering mothers last night it was so dumb. I watched hide and Q the other night, and, while ridiculous, was still really interesting. I know he comes in later episodes of Star Trek but it seems Picard won his side of the bet and Q has to stop meddling, does he hold true to this and just drop by to advise/observe?

Saint DH · 02-23-2011, 12:23 AM

Q is pretty awesome imo. He's an interesting character, not a good guy, but not necessarily a bad guy either. He is in many, many more episdoes. He's in a few of the movies, too.

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 02-23-2011, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

does he hold true to this and just drop by to advise/observe?

i won't spoil it for you

Fruitacious B · 02-23-2011, 04:35 PM

DJ FC · 02-23-2011, 04:54 PM

TNG was the bomb.

I almost cried when Picard became a borg.

thekremlin · 02-24-2011, 04:24 AM

The season finale 2-parters that DIDNT have the borg were a rip-off. The one where picard becomes a borg and the one where lore teams up with the borg are fucking awesome

Saint DH · 02-24-2011, 06:57 AM

Yes, the ones where Picard becomes a borg (Titled: The Best of Both Worlds) are often referred to as the best episodes of the entire series. They are definitely some of my favorites. I'm not sure I remember the one where lore teams up with the borg.

I also liked the episode where the crew captures a borg unit and almost turn him back into a human.

vaga1220 * · 02-24-2011, 05:41 PM

3rd of 5 aka Hue. I think he makes appearances in 2 episodes of TNG and is mentioned in Voyager.

Mr. Blonde · 02-24-2011, 06:35 PM

I'm having a really hard time getting through the first season.

Troi is pretty much worthless besides her cleavage.

The way the Federation panders to assholes is annoying as fuck.

Riker's facial expressions are pissing me off.

The silly fucking tropes are also really annoying.

Although I did watch the "Dixon Hill" holodeck episode last night, that was pretty cool.

Saint DH · 02-24-2011, 06:44 PM

Troi is fucking awesome because of her awesome tits. She also can sense other people's emotions, which proves to be extremely useful. However, I'm not sure why this warrants her a chair next to the captain.

Riker is my favorite character (other than Picard). He is a bad ass...I have no idea wtf you're talking about with his facial expressions. Please elaborate.

And yes, I do agree that the way the Federation panders to assholes is annoying. Picard is a bad ass, though, and he will rarely back down from those mother fuckers despite what the federation tells him to do.

In that regard, however, Picard is not as bad ass as Kirk. Kirk would do whatever the fuck he wanted. Kirk was far more like Riker is than Picard. Picard is more a finesse type of captain, whereas Kirk was just a balls-out renegade.

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 02-24-2011, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

She also can sense other people's emotions

With her tits.

thekremlin · 02-25-2011, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

Riker is my favorite character (other than Picard). He is a bad ass...

No excuse for this in a show with Data AND Worf

DJ FC · 02-25-2011, 04:44 AM

Riker was actually pretty lame.

Data was golden.

Saint DH · 02-25-2011, 04:51 AM

This is blasphemous.

thekremlin · 02-25-2011, 05:28 AM

9/10 nerds agree, rikers pretty gay

Mr. Blonde · 02-25-2011, 07:08 AM

Put together some of my favorite/the most ridiculous parts of Hide and Q episode to point out how hard it is to get through Season 1:

YouTube - My Movie (9)

DDTempest · 02-25-2011, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ FC

Data was golden.

I see what you did there. Cause his skin was gold.

02-21-2011, 12:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	All Things Star Trek As long as we're talking about Geordi, why did they always have him examine stuff with the different spectrums his visor can see? You'd think they'd be able to implement those same scanners on the ship. I understand this makes sense in regard to moving the plot forward, but do they ever explain why they send out high level officers from the bridge for their A and B teams? The constant replacing of the first two especially bridge officers (usually Geordi and Data) is kind of annoying.

02-21-2011, 02:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
DJ FC MURICAN Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 5,136 Internets: 250185	You're asking why a director would want the movie stars in as many scenes as possible?
	The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them.

02-23-2011, 04:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
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02-23-2011, 04:54 PM	#13 (permalink)
DJ FC MURICAN Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 5,136 Internets: 250185	TNG was the bomb. I almost cried when Picard became a borg.
	The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them.

02-24-2011, 05:41 PM	#16 (permalink)
vaga1220 * *Dislikes ham Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: HELL 666 Posts: 1,518 Internets: 60790	3rd of 5 aka Hue. I think he makes appearances in 2 episodes of TNG and is mentioned in Voyager.
	Putting the sensual in non-consensual.

02-21-2011, 02:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,142 Internets: 284753	They usually bring 1 or 2 low level officers with them. So they have two high ranking officers with two peons in case someone has to die. Have you seen any of the Star Trek movies with the next generation cast? They are all pretty damn good. You should definitely watch them in the order they were released. My favorite would be First Contact. I saw this movie in theaters and it's what actually turned me on to watching the show. One of my favorite movies ever.

02-22-2011, 08:18 AM	#5 (permalink)
thekremlin Don't call me Shirley Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: London Posts: 3,271 Internets: 220249	Let's go back to the tar creature that killed Tasha Yar. My parents are nerds and I was raised a nerdling, every saturday when I was a kid we all watched TNG together. But the skin of evil episode scared the FUCK out of me. Here was an alien that wasn't at all comical or relatively close too human, just a boogeyman alien. I didn't sleep that night at all, or watch star trek for weeks. Now it should be noted that I was like 5 and had had a similar reaction to "Gremlins 2" but still, when I think of that episode I get the willies. For some reason even the borg didnt elicit this reaction.

02-23-2011, 12:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,142 Internets: 284753	Q is pretty awesome imo. He's an interesting character, not a good guy, but not necessarily a bad guy either. He is in many, many more episdoes. He's in a few of the movies, too.

02-24-2011, 04:24 AM	#14 (permalink)
thekremlin Don't call me Shirley Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: London Posts: 3,271 Internets: 220249	The season finale 2-parters that DIDNT have the borg were a rip-off. The one where picard becomes a borg and the one where lore teams up with the borg are fucking awesome

02-24-2011, 06:57 AM	#15 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,142 Internets: 284753	Yes, the ones where Picard becomes a borg (Titled: The Best of Both Worlds) are often referred to as the best episodes of the entire series. They are definitely some of my favorites. I'm not sure I remember the one where lore teams up with the borg. I also liked the episode where the crew captures a borg unit and almost turn him back into a human.

02-24-2011, 06:35 PM	#17 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	I'm having a really hard time getting through the first season. Troi is pretty much worthless besides her cleavage. The way the Federation panders to assholes is annoying as fuck. Riker's facial expressions are pissing me off. The silly fucking tropes are also really annoying. Although I did watch the "Dixon Hill" holodeck episode last night, that was pretty cool.

02-24-2011, 06:44 PM	#18 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,142 Internets: 284753	Troi is fucking awesome because of her awesome tits. She also can sense other people's emotions, which proves to be extremely useful. However, I'm not sure why this warrants her a chair next to the captain. Riker is my favorite character (other than Picard). He is a bad ass...I have no idea wtf you're talking about with his facial expressions. Please elaborate. And yes, I do agree that the way the Federation panders to assholes is annoying. Picard is a bad ass, though, and he will rarely back down from those mother fuckers despite what the federation tells him to do. In that regard, however, Picard is not as bad ass as Kirk. Kirk would do whatever the fuck he wanted. Kirk was far more like Riker is than Picard. Picard is more a finesse type of captain, whereas Kirk was just a balls-out renegade.

02-25-2011, 04:44 AM	#21 (permalink)
DJ FC MURICAN Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 5,136 Internets: 250185	Riker was actually pretty lame. Data was golden.
	The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them.

02-25-2011, 04:51 AM	#22 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,142 Internets: 284753	This is blasphemous.

02-25-2011, 05:28 AM	#23 (permalink)
thekremlin Don't call me Shirley Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: London Posts: 3,271 Internets: 220249	9/10 nerds agree, rikers pretty gay

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