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Fruitacious B · 11-03-2010, 12:18 AM

from what I've read, there's still a lot of precincts left to report. Nonetheless, it is looking grim, and for that I am pissed. Prop 19 should have been an overwhelming success from the start.

Mr. Blonde · 11-03-2010, 12:23 AM

Agreed, pretty surprised it didn't pass honestly.

Der Fuhrer · 11-03-2010, 01:08 AM

On a related note, it's a very close race for medical marijuana in Arizona.

SittinOnDubsWGW · 11-04-2010, 10:58 PM

And that didn't fucking fly either.

bullshit on both of those not passing.

Ironic Mustache · 11-04-2010, 11:07 PM

UB was right, it was the religious nutjobs not wanting, "dope," in California.

f3lix · 11-05-2010, 12:05 AM

The weed growers and dealers also likely voted against it, as it would kill their side (or primary) job.

Ironic Mustache · 11-05-2010, 12:09 AM

They were part of it too, but there aren't as many weed dealers as there are religious nutjobs.

Der Fuhrer · 11-05-2010, 12:34 AM

Isn't the fact that there was even a vote for it a significant step in that direction? Or will the negative result of this vote likely have a deterring effect on progressing forward?

Beebs · 11-05-2010, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f3lix

The weed growers and dealers also likely voted against it, as it would kill their side (or primary) job.

Eh, weed has an equilibrium price range in places where it is semi legal or just not enforced, like humbolt county, they still make a decent amount of money.

Also people need to stock the dispensary.

The importers of the drug would be the ones seriously pissed.

Ironic Mustache · 11-05-2010, 10:44 AM

Weed is way cheaper in the stores than in the street.

Orgazmo · 11-05-2010, 11:43 AM

On a different forum that had a big ass thread about this, the majority of growers voted against it leading to fury raging inside the rest of the supporters.

Ugly Bastard · 11-05-2010, 01:07 PM

Two documentaries anyone interested in how/why Prop 19 might not have passed are:

8: A Mormon Proposition
The Union: The Business Behind Getting High

One shows how religious nuts can affect props like this while the other shows how the current weed market is making a few people incredibly rich and therefore keeping it in their interest for weed to remain illegal.

vaga1220 * · 11-05-2010, 01:28 PM

Fucking Mormons.... That's what I was doing last night.

angry pancake · 11-05-2010, 08:57 PM

Many stoners probably aren't even registered to vote. Or they just got stoned and missed it.

Dent · 11-07-2010, 10:48 PM

I accidentally pissed on a spliff earlier and proceeded to smoke it with friends, I think it's a milestone.

f3lix · 11-08-2010, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angry pancake

Many stoners probably aren't even registered to vote. Or they just got stoned and missed it.

This stereotype doesn't make sense.

DDTempest · 11-08-2010, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f3lix

This stereotype doesn't make sense.

I think he's implying that Marijuana use causes a general apathy among its users ... I know that's a stretch, but if you give it the benefit of the doubt I think the stereotype almost makes sense.

OR MAYBE IF YOU WEREN'T FUCKING STONED WHEN YOU READ IT

f3lix · 11-09-2010, 01:35 PM

Does it make people lazy? Yes
Would the majority of actual smokers prefer to be able to buy it legally with no negative consequences? Yes
Would a lazy pot smoker actually go and vote for something that could change their smoking life for the better? Probably yes

Ironic Mustache · 11-09-2010, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f3lix

Does it make people lazy? Yes
Would the majority of actual smokers prefer to be able to buy it legally with no negative consequences? Yes
Would a lazy pot smoker actually go and vote for something that could change their smoking life for the better? Probably yes

Unfortunately not a single stoner I know actually went and voted. On the other hand, 99% of them have their medical marijuana cards so, they really didn't care one way or another. The "control and tax" issue had no impact on them at all. Does it promote apathy? Absolutely. These are the most apathetic people I know.

f3lix · 11-09-2010, 02:47 PM

I didn't factor in the MMJ element. That would totally throw it out the window.

Der Fuhrer · 11-09-2010, 04:34 PM

Complete legalization would greatly reduce the price of marijuana, so even medical users have a reason to vote. Perhaps some people are just stupid.

DJ FC · 11-10-2010, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f3lix

Would a lazy pot smoker actually go and vote for something that could change their smoking life for the better? Probably yes

Probably not.

Twenty somethings just don't vote dude. Not like grandma.

f3lix · 11-10-2010, 02:36 PM

Saying they don't vote and then comparing them to Grandma voting numbers are two different things. They do vote, just not as much as grandma.

DDTempest · 11-10-2010, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f3lix

Saying they don't vote and then comparing them to Grandma voting numbers are two different things. They do vote, just not as much as grandma.

We get it, cause if they didn't vote then the number would be zero ... your lazer-accuracy in this thread is astounding +1 sir

f3lix · 11-11-2010, 01:53 AM

No, you don't get it.

18% of voters in the 2008 election were 18-29 years old while only 16% were over 65 years old.

In 2010, it changed drastically with 18-29 getting 11% and 65+ getting 23%.

11-03-2010, 12:18 AM	#51 (permalink)
Fruitacious B Bokononist Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,595 Internets: 11801	from what I've read, there's still a lot of precincts left to report. Nonetheless, it is looking grim, and for that I am pissed. Prop 19 should have been an overwhelming success from the start.
	"Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand." \|vonnegut

11-03-2010, 12:23 AM	#52 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	Agreed, pretty surprised it didn't pass honestly.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

11-04-2010, 11:07 PM	#55 (permalink)
Ironic Mustache G'd up from the feet up. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Posts: 7,146 Supreme Emperor of the Jiu Jitsu Shit Forum?: Yes Internets: 114735	UB was right, it was the religious nutjobs not wanting, "dope," in California.
	Creeping around as I please nonchalantly like any other Supreme Emperor might.

11-05-2010, 12:09 AM	#57 (permalink)
Ironic Mustache G'd up from the feet up. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Posts: 7,146 Supreme Emperor of the Jiu Jitsu Shit Forum?: Yes Internets: 114735	They were part of it too, but there aren't as many weed dealers as there are religious nutjobs.
	Creeping around as I please nonchalantly like any other Supreme Emperor might.

11-05-2010, 10:44 AM	#60 (permalink)
Ironic Mustache G'd up from the feet up. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Posts: 7,146 Supreme Emperor of the Jiu Jitsu Shit Forum?: Yes Internets: 114735	Weed is way cheaper in the stores than in the street.
	Creeping around as I please nonchalantly like any other Supreme Emperor might.

11-03-2010, 01:08 AM	#53 (permalink)
Der Fuhrer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 549 Internets: 5464	On a related note, it's a very close race for medical marijuana in Arizona.

11-04-2010, 10:58 PM	#54 (permalink)
SittinOnDubsWGW I make bad decisions. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Desert Posts: 3,018 Internets: 108015	And that didn't fucking fly either. bullshit on both of those not passing.

11-05-2010, 12:05 AM	#56 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	The weed growers and dealers also likely voted against it, as it would kill their side (or primary) job.

11-05-2010, 12:34 AM	#58 (permalink)
Der Fuhrer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 549 Internets: 5464	Isn't the fact that there was even a vote for it a significant step in that direction? Or will the negative result of this vote likely have a deterring effect on progressing forward?

11-05-2010, 11:43 AM	#61 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,697 Internets: 305662	On a different forum that had a big ass thread about this, the majority of growers voted against it leading to fury raging inside the rest of the supporters.

11-05-2010, 01:07 PM	#62 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Two documentaries anyone interested in how/why Prop 19 might not have passed are: 8: A Mormon Proposition The Union: The Business Behind Getting High One shows how religious nuts can affect props like this while the other shows how the current weed market is making a few people incredibly rich and therefore keeping it in their interest for weed to remain illegal.

11-05-2010, 01:28 PM	#63 (permalink)
vaga1220 * *Dislikes ham Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: HELL 666 Posts: 1,518 Internets: 60790	Fucking Mormons.... That's what I was doing last night.
	Putting the sensual in non-consensual.

11-07-2010, 10:48 PM	#65 (permalink)
Dent Lost in Hilbert Spice Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrounded by knaves and fools Posts: 3,505 Internets: 177361	I accidentally pissed on a spliff earlier and proceeded to smoke it with friends, I think it's a milestone.

11-09-2010, 01:35 PM	#68 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	Does it make people lazy? Yes Would the majority of actual smokers prefer to be able to buy it legally with no negative consequences? Yes Would a lazy pot smoker actually go and vote for something that could change their smoking life for the better? Probably yes

11-09-2010, 02:47 PM	#70 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	I didn't factor in the MMJ element. That would totally throw it out the window.

11-09-2010, 04:34 PM	#71 (permalink)
Der Fuhrer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 549 Internets: 5464	Complete legalization would greatly reduce the price of marijuana, so even medical users have a reason to vote. Perhaps some people are just stupid.

11-10-2010, 02:36 PM	#73 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	Saying they don't vote and then comparing them to Grandma voting numbers are two different things. They do vote, just not as much as grandma.

11-11-2010, 01:53 AM	#75 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	No, you don't get it. 18% of voters in the 2008 election were 18-29 years old while only 16% were over 65 years old. In 2010, it changed drastically with 18-29 getting 11% and 65+ getting 23%.

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