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Old 11-03-2010, 12:18 AM   #51 (permalink)
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from what I've read, there's still a lot of precincts left to report. Nonetheless, it is looking grim, and for that I am pissed. Prop 19 should have been an overwhelming success from the start.

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Old 11-03-2010, 12:23 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Agreed, pretty surprised it didn't pass honestly.

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Old 11-03-2010, 01:08 AM   #53 (permalink)
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On a related note, it's a very close race for medical marijuana in Arizona.

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Old 11-04-2010, 10:58 PM   #54 (permalink)
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And that didn't fucking fly either.

bullshit on both of those not passing.
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:07 PM   #55 (permalink)
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UB was right, it was the religious nutjobs not wanting, "dope," in California.

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Old 11-05-2010, 12:05 AM   #56 (permalink)
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The weed growers and dealers also likely voted against it, as it would kill their side (or primary) job.
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Old 11-05-2010, 12:09 AM   #57 (permalink)
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They were part of it too, but there aren't as many weed dealers as there are religious nutjobs.

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Old 11-05-2010, 12:34 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Isn't the fact that there was even a vote for it a significant step in that direction? Or will the negative result of this vote likely have a deterring effect on progressing forward?

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Old 11-05-2010, 07:46 AM   #59 (permalink)
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The weed growers and dealers also likely voted against it, as it would kill their side (or primary) job.
Eh, weed has an equilibrium price range in places where it is semi legal or just not enforced, like humbolt county, they still make a decent amount of money.

Also people need to stock the dispensary.

The importers of the drug would be the ones seriously pissed.
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Old 11-05-2010, 10:44 AM   #60 (permalink)
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Weed is way cheaper in the stores than in the street.

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Old 11-05-2010, 11:43 AM   #61 (permalink)
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On a different forum that had a big ass thread about this, the majority of growers voted against it leading to fury raging inside the rest of the supporters.
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Old 11-05-2010, 01:07 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Two documentaries anyone interested in how/why Prop 19 might not have passed are:

8: A Mormon Proposition
The Union: The Business Behind Getting High

One shows how religious nuts can affect props like this while the other shows how the current weed market is making a few people incredibly rich and therefore keeping it in their interest for weed to remain illegal.
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Old 11-05-2010, 01:28 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Old 11-05-2010, 08:57 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Many stoners probably aren't even registered to vote. Or they just got stoned and missed it.

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Old 11-07-2010, 10:48 PM   #65 (permalink)
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I accidentally pissed on a spliff earlier and proceeded to smoke it with friends, I think it's a milestone.
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Old 11-08-2010, 01:21 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Many stoners probably aren't even registered to vote. Or they just got stoned and missed it.
This stereotype doesn't make sense.
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Old 11-08-2010, 09:23 AM   #67 (permalink)
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This stereotype doesn't make sense.
I think he's implying that Marijuana use causes a general apathy among its users ... I know that's a stretch, but if you give it the benefit of the doubt I think the stereotype almost makes sense.

OR MAYBE IF YOU WEREN'T FUCKING STONED WHEN YOU READ IT

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Old 11-09-2010, 01:35 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Does it make people lazy? Yes
Would the majority of actual smokers prefer to be able to buy it legally with no negative consequences? Yes
Would a lazy pot smoker actually go and vote for something that could change their smoking life for the better? Probably yes
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Does it make people lazy? Yes
Would the majority of actual smokers prefer to be able to buy it legally with no negative consequences? Yes
Would a lazy pot smoker actually go and vote for something that could change their smoking life for the better? Probably yes
Unfortunately not a single stoner I know actually went and voted. On the other hand, 99% of them have their medical marijuana cards so, they really didn't care one way or another. The "control and tax" issue had no impact on them at all. Does it promote apathy? Absolutely. These are the most apathetic people I know.

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I didn't factor in the MMJ element. That would totally throw it out the window.
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Complete legalization would greatly reduce the price of marijuana, so even medical users have a reason to vote. Perhaps some people are just stupid.

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Would a lazy pot smoker actually go and vote for something that could change their smoking life for the better? Probably yes
Probably not.

Twenty somethings just don't vote dude. Not like grandma.


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Saying they don't vote and then comparing them to Grandma voting numbers are two different things. They do vote, just not as much as grandma.
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Saying they don't vote and then comparing them to Grandma voting numbers are two different things. They do vote, just not as much as grandma.
We get it, cause if they didn't vote then the number would be zero ... your lazer-accuracy in this thread is astounding +1 sir

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No, you don't get it.

18% of voters in the 2008 election were 18-29 years old while only 16% were over 65 years old.

In 2010, it changed drastically with 18-29 getting 11% and 65+ getting 23%.
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