Who is going to hell? An argument for the Bible, Religion and God. - Page 25 - Nubblies.net Forums

Der Fuhrer · 03-06-2010, 06:04 PM

I am a demon.

Mr. Blonde · 03-06-2010, 10:08 PM

You answered my question, I guess, on what you believe, although I still can't believe that an intelligent member of Nubblies can honestly have that outlook, must have been a pretty heavy life experience. However the last thing I want is for you to stop posting so I'll lay off the directed attacks.

In regard to our newest members name

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Originally Posted by BigDongedHoe

I will not however argue (Blonde, Ninja, Deh F(whatever your name is)

just fyi: Führer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

vaga1220 * · 03-06-2010, 10:50 PM

ninjaface · 03-07-2010, 05:15 AM

Honestly, BDH, I can't respect your beliefs because they just come off as stupid. I've never liked you and your current nose dive into Christianity is certainly not changing my opinion of you. Somehow, you can't even admit that some of the stuff in the bible is outdated and irrelevant. You refuse to let reason and/or rationality play any part in your beliefs. That fact alone makes you seem truly fucked up in my eyes. I wonder what the fuck happened to you and I also wonder if you aren't making all this shit up. It really is that odd to me.

And as far as the bible verses I've quoted, I put notations where they can be found, but you somehow failed to see them. It seems your "believer's eyes" have impaired your vision.

Here it is again.

Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up the road, some youths came from the city and mocked him, and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!” So he turned around and looked at them, and pronounced a curse on them in the name of the LORD. And two female bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths.
2 Kings 2:23-24 NKJV

Right at the end there. That is how you can look it up. You swallow all that is in the bible, so I trust you can find it.

But here is the great thing. You said you are unaware of the story I was talking about. You seem to have forgotten your special little bible verse.

2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness"

What that means is, regardless of what you are aware of that is in the bible, its the fucking word of god to you. So it is righteous to kill 42 children because they made fun of a bald guy.

You don't even have to worry at this point. Because you threw that special bible verse at everyone, all we have to do is assume you're on board for that sort of thing and think the punishment fits the crime. That and any other sort of twisted shit thats in the bible.

All I can do is assume you won't have anything much to say about the topic. I almost expect a "god works in mysterious ways" type of half-assed response from you, if any.

DJ FC · 03-07-2010, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

an intelligent member of Nubblies

Ummmm? I'm not certain we have one. And if we do, BDH is certainly not it.

DJ FC · 03-07-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDongedHoe

As far as Christianity being the biggest religion in the world you're wrong. As I mentioned above thats including Roman Catholics and numerous denominations that I don't consider all being true believers. Islam is the biggest and fastest growing religion in the world.

You're wrong. Don't you think there are plenty of "muslims" who wouldn't be muslim unless their society (or government) mandated that they be? Islam probably has just as many less faithful followers, or adhearants in name only. Christianity is bigger.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...us_populations

vaga1220 * · 03-07-2010, 05:18 PM

Making fun of Christians is like beating up a blind, def, dumb, paralyzed, retarded, infant. He believes in Demons for fuck's sake. There's just nothing else to say; no other way of putting it other then he's fucked in the head and is mentally unstable.

Der Fuhrer · 03-08-2010, 02:58 AM

I think killing 42 children is OK even if they aren't making fun of a bald guy! Killing children is fun because they are weak!

Fruitacious B · 03-08-2010, 02:58 PM

My first and favorite argument about Christianity is this...

In the Christian view God is Omnipotent, he knows everything that has and will happen. Now jump to the Creation Story. Why would a loving, all-knowing God, even put the Tree of Life in the Garden of Eden if he already knew that Adam and Eve were going to fuck it up?

That's not a loving God. It brings to mind the comparison of a little kid with a magnifying glass above an ant hill. And most Christians that I've posed this to have never had a reasonable response...and that's starting from the supposed 'beginning'. Anything that follows is one and the same.

Ugly Bastard · 03-08-2010, 03:15 PM

Fruit, you're kind of hinting at the crux of why I just can't buy into Christianity. It's as simple as this and I don't ever see a Christian satisfying this conundrum in my mind enough to make me believe: I cannot fathom a God who exists that is so powerful as to possess the capability to create the entire universe and yet be so needy that if the meaningless little humans don't worship him and acknowledge his existence, despite his having done a poor job of making it obvious in our minds that he does exist, he will send us to eternal torture. That just doesn't add up for me and it's why I think anyone who believes in heaven/hell, God, etc has to be pretty stupid to ignore this point.

BigDongedHoe · 03-08-2010, 09:36 PM

Its funny you say that Fruit. I didn't believe for years because of exactly what you said. Why would God create us if if he knew we were pre-destined to mess it up? Another one is if God already knows whether or not we are going to accept him as our savior why does he continuously knock on the door of hearts to accept him?

In my Christian walk right now I constantly think about God's plan for me vs. my own free will. God granted us with free will which explains why Adam and Even ate from the tree. What I fight is where do I draw the line between my desires and what he desires for me. As you grow in faith and all of these arguments and things that held you back seemingly disappear. I don't worry about the question you pose anymore and I did for many years (10+). There are questions that will never be answered and thats where faith comes into play. The day I enter the Kingdom of Heaven and have the chance to speak with God I'm sure one of the questions (of many) I'll ask is exactly what you just brought up.

Mr. Blonde · 03-08-2010, 10:24 PM

Why in the world would you devote your life, likely at least a good 50 more years, to something that can't possibly be answered while you're alive, or dead for that matter? Why are you fighting knowledge so hard? As I and others have said in this thread BDH, i'd LOVE to believe in a God, but honestly, I just can't do it. I'm not that retarded. That's how you're acting.

You're acting like a retard.

I'm not "persecuting you", although it's cute how you mentioned earlier in the thread that scripture predicted you would be ridiculed etc. etc. You've done that several times in this thread; quote scripture as ultimate fact and ignore the other scripture we bring to your attention, trying to swerve around the points and say "I just believe cause of personal things that happened in my life, I know where you're coming from"

You don't know where we're coming from, because if you did, you would realize the folly of believing in something just because it's "comfortable". You'd value intelligence and reason over an invisible sky daddy who gives you faux comfort. So quit trying to say you "used to be like us" with that self righteous little e-tone of yours. We're the evolved ones. You are the devolved one.

I really don't know what it was that made this happen to you, whether it's a latent effect of the indoctrinization you got at Grace, or whether it's one of the most elaborate trolling schemes of all time. I'm not ridiculing you because of your belief in Christ, which is what the Bible was referring to, as there were other alternative Gods to believe in at the time. I'm ridiculing you because I have zero respect for someone would refuses to look at a situation with logic, reason, and common sense

I changed my mind from my previous statement. I can't legitimately respect you as a person if you are such a hardcore believer for no reason at all.

BigDongedHoe · 03-08-2010, 11:35 PM

I believe cause he worked in my life. You honestly think I didn't go through a time period where I didn't want this? Drinking, nailing chicks, and all that stuff was fun for a time but I was left empty deep down. Blonde you've mentioned time again about depression and that empty feeling to where you no long are happy or unhappy but just "are". I can tell you once you know Christ you realize what true happiness and life is. You can insult me all you want and continue to put me down but I'm happy and at peace with my life because I know Christ. When things in life get worse (because they will) I'll continue to be at peace.

BigDongedHoe · 03-08-2010, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

I'm not "persecuting you"

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

You're acting like a retard.

Forgive my ignorance.

Mr. Blonde · 03-08-2010, 11:57 PM

Meant to say "I'm not persecuting you BECAUSE you're a Christian, which is what the Bible was referring to when it was written, as at the time being a Christian was pretty unfashionable and frowned upon by the likes of Jews and Romans." That was actually in there before and I don't know how it got deleted.

I "persecute" all religions the same, as I should, because you base your beliefs off nonsense. You quoting scripture on "they said we would be persecuted" isn't valid, however, with how large Christianity has become. Stop playing the victim.

Fruitacious B · 03-09-2010, 12:25 AM

In other news...The Tortoise and The Hair is a true story.

Believe it, or be cast into eternal pain and suffering.

Der Fuhrer · 03-09-2010, 08:45 AM

Wow. Forgive me.

Repugnant Abomination · 03-09-2010, 08:54 AM

BDH, outside of the whole faith thing, which I admit I don't think I'll ever understand, I want to ask you more about how God touched your life. Were these actual, tangible things, or more matters of the heart? Like, when you say this stuff, do you basically mean that he softened your heart enough for you to let him in? I suspect that's the case - that it's essentially a truth you know in your heart, rather than exterior happenings.

Fruitacious B · 03-09-2010, 09:12 AM

Mr. Blonde · 03-09-2010, 09:31 AM

fyp

BigDongedHoe · 03-09-2010, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

BDH, outside of the whole faith thing, which I admit I don't think I'll ever understand, I want to ask you more about how God touched your life. Were these actual, tangible things, or more matters of the heart? Like, when you say this stuff, do you basically mean that he softened your heart enough for you to let him in? I suspect that's the case - that it's essentially a truth you know in your heart, rather than exterior happenings.

My testimony isn't something I'll share over here I apologize. I didn't have a Paul on demascus road type conversion as some have. But a culmination of things that happened over a few months really changed my heart.

I too never thought I'd understand faith. I for many years thought it was simply something that would never happen in my life. Despite what Blonde says I do understand where everyone is coming from. I never argued against religion the way Blonde did but had my reasons for why I didn't believe. I've for the most part respected all people and their beliefs so I never argued for one belief or another. As you guys know between drugs, drinking, and women I'm not short on life experience and have lived the life many of you live. Through many outlets (mainly alcohol and women) I tried to find a true peace and happiness in my life and never really found it. I felt like I had a lot of things going for me but always felt that one thing was missing. It goes without saying now but I know exactly what was missing and I also know where my happiness and peace comes from.

Mr. Blonde · 03-09-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDongedHoe

I've for the most part respected all people and their beliefs so I never argued for one belief or another. As you guys know between drugs, drinking, and women I'm not short on life experience and have lived the life many of you live.

Why should religion warrant any respect? Or people, for that matter? I respect peoples basic human rights, but when their heavy beliefs are an affront to logic and reason, and consequently human progress, they absolutely do not deserve my respect. In the same vein other members have used fairy tale analogies, I would not respect an adult who still believed in the tooth fairy. I'd call them crazy or dumb, because that's what they would be.

Protip: There is more to life experience than drugs, drinking, women, camping and Dave Matthews Band. Some of the most important ones involve moving out of your hometown (or state, in the case of Indiana, except for a select few who are able to live outside the status quo), entering new and different and possibly unpleasant social circles, and living on your own.

I have that same gap you claim to have filled; everybody does. Instead of fill it with some hollow, non-explanation (and that's all god is), I'm trying my best to fill it with a deep understanding of science and the known facts of the Universe, and I can honestly say i've been happier than i've ever been, even with the ridiculous amount of things that science doesn't understand -- yet. And even if I never understand or find the answers to the questions, which is entirely likely, i'll be at peace as well...knowing that I at least tried. Unlike you.

Richard Dawkins quotes a blogger in The God Delusion, and it's one of my favorite quotes of all time:

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Why is God considered an explanation for anything? It's not –- it's a failure to explain, a shrug of the shoulders, an ‘I dunno’ dressed up in spirituality and ritual. If someone credits something to God, generaly what it means is that they haven't a clue, so they're attributing it to an unreachable, unknowable sky-fairy. Ask for an explanation of where that bloke came from, and odds are you'll get a vague, pseudo-philosophical reply about having always existed, or being outside nature. Which, of course, explains nothing.

BigDongedHoe · 03-09-2010, 01:43 PM

I'm afraid I'm done argueing. You don't know me personally on any level Blonde yet you make assumptions about the type of person I am. Its funny you throw putting yourself in "unpleasant social circles". Anyone who knows me even slightly knows that I have hung out with and can relate to nearly any social circle out there. I also have lived on my own for a time, I lived in Indianapolis when I was 21 for 4 months and also had an apartment here in Warsaw for a year.

I also can't help but notice the contradiction of a few days ago saying you are neither unhappy or happy but just are (your words) Yet now you claim to be happier than you've ever been and seemed to of "filled that gap" which is direct contradiction to what you said nearly a few days ago. I don't know you personally and you don't know me yet you still make assumptions about the person I am. It also disturbs me how anti-christian you are. I hang out with people that are accepting of everyone be you christian, non-christian, homosexual, heterosexual, black, brown, or red. Not only do my group of friends accept these people they also don't judge or look down on them for anything. That is very telling to my personality despite my beliefs and I simply refuse to talk down upon others even when I think they're wrong. I love and accept all and forgive and forget anyone who has wronged me. I do this not only because of my faith but also because thats truly my personality. I think you and I are two different types of people both in thought and belief which is okay. I'm just not going to argue because it's a spinning circle with no concrete ground to stand on.

So yeah I guess I'll leave you with enjoying your search, I hope you find what you're looking for.

Fruitacious B · 03-09-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDongedHoe

Through many outlets (mainly alcohol and women) I tried to find a true peace and happiness in my life and never really found it. I felt like I had a lot of things going for me but always felt that one thing was missing.

You could have just as easily made that change on your own...in fact, you did. Because God wasn't there. Christianity isn't the solution.

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Originally Posted by BigDongedHoe

I'm just not going to argue because it's a spinning circle with no concrete ground to stand on.

DJ FC · 03-09-2010, 03:10 PM

Listen to BDH guys, he lived in THE BIG CITY for 4 months.

03-06-2010, 10:50 PM	#603 (permalink)
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03-07-2010, 05:18 PM	#607 (permalink)
vaga1220 * *Dislikes ham Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: HELL 666 Posts: 1,518 Internets: 60790	Making fun of Christians is like beating up a blind, def, dumb, paralyzed, retarded, infant. He believes in Demons for fuck's sake. There's just nothing else to say; no other way of putting it other then he's fucked in the head and is mentally unstable.
	Putting the sensual in non-consensual.

03-08-2010, 02:58 PM	#609 (permalink)
Fruitacious B Bokononist Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,595 Internets: 11801	My first and favorite argument about Christianity is this... In the Christian view God is Omnipotent, he knows everything that has and will happen. Now jump to the Creation Story. Why would a loving, all-knowing God, even put the Tree of Life in the Garden of Eden if he already knew that Adam and Eve were going to fuck it up? That's not a loving God. It brings to mind the comparison of a little kid with a magnifying glass above an ant hill. And most Christians that I've posed this to have never had a reasonable response...and that's starting from the supposed 'beginning'. Anything that follows is one and the same.
	"Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand." \|vonnegut

03-08-2010, 09:36 PM	#611 (permalink)
BigDongedHoe Sex Kitten Milf fuuucck Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,704 Internets: 55974	Its funny you say that Fruit. I didn't believe for years because of exactly what you said. Why would God create us if if he knew we were pre-destined to mess it up? Another one is if God already knows whether or not we are going to accept him as our savior why does he continuously knock on the door of hearts to accept him? In my Christian walk right now I constantly think about God's plan for me vs. my own free will. God granted us with free will which explains why Adam and Even ate from the tree. What I fight is where do I draw the line between my desires and what he desires for me. As you grow in faith and all of these arguments and things that held you back seemingly disappear. I don't worry about the question you pose anymore and I did for many years (10+). There are questions that will never be answered and thats where faith comes into play. The day I enter the Kingdom of Heaven and have the chance to speak with God I'm sure one of the questions (of many) I'll ask is exactly what you just brought up.
	There's life and then there is Cubs baseball, it's a chore to seperate the two.

03-08-2010, 10:24 PM	#612 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	Why in the world would you devote your life, likely at least a good 50 more years, to something that can't possibly be answered while you're alive, or dead for that matter? Why are you fighting knowledge so hard? As I and others have said in this thread BDH, i'd LOVE to believe in a God, but honestly, I just can't do it. I'm not that retarded. That's how you're acting. You're acting like a retard. I'm not "persecuting you", although it's cute how you mentioned earlier in the thread that scripture predicted you would be ridiculed etc. etc. You've done that several times in this thread; quote scripture as ultimate fact and ignore the other scripture we bring to your attention, trying to swerve around the points and say "I just believe cause of personal things that happened in my life, I know where you're coming from" You don't know where we're coming from, because if you did, you would realize the folly of believing in something just because it's "comfortable". You'd value intelligence and reason over an invisible sky daddy who gives you faux comfort. So quit trying to say you "used to be like us" with that self righteous little e-tone of yours. We're the evolved ones. You are the devolved one. I really don't know what it was that made this happen to you, whether it's a latent effect of the indoctrinization you got at Grace, or whether it's one of the most elaborate trolling schemes of all time. I'm not ridiculing you because of your belief in Christ, which is what the Bible was referring to, as there were other alternative Gods to believe in at the time. I'm ridiculing you because I have zero respect for someone would refuses to look at a situation with logic, reason, and common sense I changed my mind from my previous statement. I can't legitimately respect you as a person if you are such a hardcore believer for no reason at all.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

03-06-2010, 06:04 PM	#601 (permalink)
Der Fuhrer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 549 Internets: 5464	I am a demon.

03-07-2010, 05:15 AM	#604 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	Honestly, BDH, I can't respect your beliefs because they just come off as stupid. I've never liked you and your current nose dive into Christianity is certainly not changing my opinion of you. Somehow, you can't even admit that some of the stuff in the bible is outdated and irrelevant. You refuse to let reason and/or rationality play any part in your beliefs. That fact alone makes you seem truly fucked up in my eyes. I wonder what the fuck happened to you and I also wonder if you aren't making all this shit up. It really is that odd to me. And as far as the bible verses I've quoted, I put notations where they can be found, but you somehow failed to see them. It seems your "believer's eyes" have impaired your vision. Here it is again. Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up the road, some youths came from the city and mocked him, and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!” So he turned around and looked at them, and pronounced a curse on them in the name of the LORD. And two female bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths. 2 Kings 2:23-24 NKJV Right at the end there. That is how you can look it up. You swallow all that is in the bible, so I trust you can find it. But here is the great thing. You said you are unaware of the story I was talking about. You seem to have forgotten your special little bible verse. 2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness" What that means is, regardless of what you are aware of that is in the bible, its the fucking word of god to you. So it is righteous to kill 42 children because they made fun of a bald guy. You don't even have to worry at this point. Because you threw that special bible verse at everyone, all we have to do is assume you're on board for that sort of thing and think the punishment fits the crime. That and any other sort of twisted shit thats in the bible. All I can do is assume you won't have anything much to say about the topic. I almost expect a "god works in mysterious ways" type of half-assed response from you, if any.

03-08-2010, 02:58 AM	#608 (permalink)
Der Fuhrer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 549 Internets: 5464	I think killing 42 children is OK even if they aren't making fun of a bald guy! Killing children is fun because they are weak!

03-08-2010, 03:15 PM	#610 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Fruit, you're kind of hinting at the crux of why I just can't buy into Christianity. It's as simple as this and I don't ever see a Christian satisfying this conundrum in my mind enough to make me believe: I cannot fathom a God who exists that is so powerful as to possess the capability to create the entire universe and yet be so needy that if the meaningless little humans don't worship him and acknowledge his existence, despite his having done a poor job of making it obvious in our minds that he does exist, he will send us to eternal torture. That just doesn't add up for me and it's why I think anyone who believes in heaven/hell, God, etc has to be pretty stupid to ignore this point.

03-08-2010, 11:35 PM	#613 (permalink)
BigDongedHoe Sex Kitten Milf fuuucck Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,704 Internets: 55974	I believe cause he worked in my life. You honestly think I didn't go through a time period where I didn't want this? Drinking, nailing chicks, and all that stuff was fun for a time but I was left empty deep down. Blonde you've mentioned time again about depression and that empty feeling to where you no long are happy or unhappy but just "are". I can tell you once you know Christ you realize what true happiness and life is. You can insult me all you want and continue to put me down but I'm happy and at peace with my life because I know Christ. When things in life get worse (because they will) I'll continue to be at peace.
	There's life and then there is Cubs baseball, it's a chore to seperate the two.

03-08-2010, 11:57 PM	#615 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	Meant to say "I'm not persecuting you BECAUSE you're a Christian, which is what the Bible was referring to when it was written, as at the time being a Christian was pretty unfashionable and frowned upon by the likes of Jews and Romans." That was actually in there before and I don't know how it got deleted. I "persecute" all religions the same, as I should, because you base your beliefs off nonsense. You quoting scripture on "they said we would be persecuted" isn't valid, however, with how large Christianity has become. Stop playing the victim.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

03-09-2010, 12:25 AM	#616 (permalink)
Fruitacious B Bokononist Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,595 Internets: 11801	In other news...The Tortoise and The Hair is a true story. Believe it, or be cast into eternal pain and suffering.
	"Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand." \|vonnegut

03-09-2010, 08:45 AM	#617 (permalink)
Der Fuhrer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 549 Internets: 5464	Wow. Forgive me.
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03-09-2010, 08:54 AM	#618 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 161638	BDH, outside of the whole faith thing, which I admit I don't think I'll ever understand, I want to ask you more about how God touched your life. Were these actual, tangible things, or more matters of the heart? Like, when you say this stuff, do you basically mean that he softened your heart enough for you to let him in? I suspect that's the case - that it's essentially a truth you know in your heart, rather than exterior happenings.

03-09-2010, 09:12 AM	#619 (permalink)
Fruitacious B Bokononist Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,595 Internets: 11801
	"Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand." \|vonnegut

03-09-2010, 09:31 AM	#620 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	fyp
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

03-09-2010, 01:43 PM	#623 (permalink)
BigDongedHoe Sex Kitten Milf fuuucck Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,704 Internets: 55974	I'm afraid I'm done argueing. You don't know me personally on any level Blonde yet you make assumptions about the type of person I am. Its funny you throw putting yourself in "unpleasant social circles". Anyone who knows me even slightly knows that I have hung out with and can relate to nearly any social circle out there. I also have lived on my own for a time, I lived in Indianapolis when I was 21 for 4 months and also had an apartment here in Warsaw for a year. I also can't help but notice the contradiction of a few days ago saying you are neither unhappy or happy but just are (your words) Yet now you claim to be happier than you've ever been and seemed to of "filled that gap" which is direct contradiction to what you said nearly a few days ago. I don't know you personally and you don't know me yet you still make assumptions about the person I am. It also disturbs me how anti-christian you are. I hang out with people that are accepting of everyone be you christian, non-christian, homosexual, heterosexual, black, brown, or red. Not only do my group of friends accept these people they also don't judge or look down on them for anything. That is very telling to my personality despite my beliefs and I simply refuse to talk down upon others even when I think they're wrong. I love and accept all and forgive and forget anyone who has wronged me. I do this not only because of my faith but also because thats truly my personality. I think you and I are two different types of people both in thought and belief which is okay. I'm just not going to argue because it's a spinning circle with no concrete ground to stand on. So yeah I guess I'll leave you with enjoying your search, I hope you find what you're looking for.
	There's life and then there is Cubs baseball, it's a chore to seperate the two. Last edited by BigDongedHoe; 03-09-2010 at 01:49 PM.

03-09-2010, 03:10 PM	#625 (permalink)
DJ FC MURICAN Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 5,136 Internets: 250185	Listen to BDH guys, he lived in THE BIG CITY for 4 months.
	The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them.