Who is going to hell? An argument for the Bible, Religion and God.

[Mr. Blonde]

what happened?

[Beebs]

All taken from christian forums

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[THEINCREDIBLEdork]

I'm not giving shit.

edit: oh another page, well this post is out of context

[Mr. Blonde]

quoted this:

Disasters like this had always happened an always will. It's sad, and I wish (like every one of you) that it didn't happened, but it did, and that is the cruel reality. Those people are facing problems that most of us can't even begin to understand, a hell of terror and desperation, and the only thing they can do is look out for themselves and their loved ones until this whole situation begins to dissipate.
But what really sickens me are most of the comments that I see here... ("we should pray for them", "God will save them", "they should turn their face to Jesus" or "God bless the world"). Words are cheap, and prayer is cheaper. I come from a poor family, a poor city in a poor country. I'm not a very educated guy, but this much I know: if you think that something should be done, then do it. Don't expect divine intervention every time you, your loved ones (or anyone else for that matter) need help. Do something about it. They are already doing their best to survive there, and if you think that they should get help, help them!!! Go to the nearest Red Cross and donate what you can (or other channels, there are many ), or if you can't afford to do that, make a petition or sign one already started to you government, to initiate a help plan for the people of Haiti. Just don't sit on your asses and pray, trust me, I know, that never really helped anyone. I'm not ranting against religion here, don't get me wrong, this is not about that. I'm just saying that there is a time for prayer, and a time for action. You really think the people of Haiti are thinking right now : "Oh, thank God, people around the world are praying really hard for us, everything should be O.K. now, we are saved by the prayers, and our children won't die of disease and starvation"... Come on!!!
Please people, wake up those around you who are sleeping throughout their lives and take a look at the world. We need each other

from photodocs thread on some dumb (hot) girls status when she said "Praying for the Haitians..."

and I got this:




http://acasmith.blogspot.com

heres the random girls blog...holy family oriented

[Orgazmo]

Sam, you just don't fucking get it, do you? Of course God didn't cause the earthquake. Why the fuck would he do that? (though he does work in mysterious ways...)

This is clearly the work of the devil. Luckily, Pat Robertson has already confirmed this for us. Sure, maybe a tectonic plate moved...but who made it move? WHO MADE THE GOD DAMNED THING MOVE, BLONDE?

Satan did. Because of a deal gone wrong. With the Haitians.

[Ugly Bastard]

That's what boggles me most about the prayer freaks. After something like this happens, they find comfort that God will help make it okay, but why not apply the same childish logic and be mad that God let it happen in the first place?

[DDTempest]

God WOULD help if he wasn't so busy blessing everyone that sneezes in front of a Christian.

[vaga1220 *]

Have you seen The Book Of Eli yet? Of course you haven't. It teaches you in gritty, gory machete chopping fashion that through faith anything is possible. A dude gets his hand cut off, how can you argue against that?

[THEINCREDIBLEdork]

God has a plan for all of us.

[Mr. Blonde]

They (the creationists) don't have a problem with science, they have a problem with argument. And irrationality is a very infectious disease as we see from the United States."

One member of staff at Guys said that he found it deeply worrying that Darwin was being dismissed by people who would soon be practising as doctors

A 21-year-old medical student and member of the Islamic Society, who did not want to be named, said that the Qur'an was clear that man had been created and had not evolved as Darwin suggests. "There is no scientific evidence for it [Darwin's Origin of Species]. It's only a theory. Man is the wonder of God's creation."

At another London campus some students have been failed because they have presented creationism as fact. They have been told by their examiners that, while they are entitled to explain both sides of the debate, they cannot present the Bible or Qur'an as scientifically factual if they want to pass exams.

Most of the next generation of medical and science students could well be creationists, according to a biology teacher at a leading London sixth-form college. "The vast majority of my students now believe in creationism," she said, "and these are thinking young people who are able and articulate and not at the dim end at all. They have extensive booklets on creationism which they put in my pigeon-hole ... it's a bit like the southern states of America." Many of them came from Muslim, Pentecostal or Baptist family backgrounds, she said, and were intending to become pharmacists, doctors, geneticists and neuro-scientists.

Academics fight rise of creationism at universities

[DDTempest]

Long read explaining the atheist point of view. Definitely worth reading when you have time on your hands.

Daily Kos: What it's Like to be an Atheist

[Mr. Blonde]

How Christian Were the Founders? - NYTimes.com

[Der Fuhrer]

I believe there is a God. I believe in a God far different from the fairy tale Harry Potter Jesus who went to Hogwartz and learned how to turn water into wine from Professor Snape. My God is an angry malevolent downright evil son of a bitch bastard who will fucking send the shit storm down on your sorry ass and fuck your wife with a 12 inch spike. I like my God. Actually I hate my God, and when I get down there to hell I'm going to kill him. Amen.


I feel like I should clarify. Basically what I mean is that, if there is a God, he's probably not all good. And, if by some slight chance he is all good, then he's not all powerful, so fuck him either way.

[Beebs]

Hitler presenting the philosophical argument of the problem of evil and the existence of god, interesting.

[Der Fuhrer]

This is kind of an interesting thought. It is a fact that every culture, every civilization, every single different group of people have some form of religion. They all believe in some form of higher-power. Granted, the beliefs of various groups are often very different from others, but the fact remains that they all have some form of relgion.

Now you might think, hey what about atheists and agnostics? They don't believe in anything! Well they do pose some difficulty fitting in this mold, but I believe they can be fit. We must first understand who the atheist is.

The atheist comes from a weallthy and developed country. Typically residing in your western civilizations like the United States and western Europe, the atheist gives no thought to problems of subsistance. He need not worry about when the next meal is going to be, or if he will be able to cultivate all his land. No, the atheist focuses his mind on the big "problems" of society. Things like religion, environmentalism, politics and the like. I contend that atheists do not believe in nothing, but rather they have found a champion within this world to which they worship.

I will start with a general example, the environmentalists. Many evironmentalists today are atheist. After all, to believe that the Earth is so fragile is to deny the power of God, at least to some extent. However, I contend that enivoronmentalists do in fact have a religion. They worship environmentalism. The Earth is the champion of their religion. They have their own religious sects, such as the Sierra Club, Green Peace, and slew of other organizations...all of which require donantions, much like a collection plate in church.

While it's obvious that not all people fit neatly into this category, I contend that all atheists fall in some simlar pattern. It is a bit more difficult to distinguish religion at the individual level though. I'll try to give an example using the most outspoken atheist on the board. Mr. Blonde is a self-declared atheist on this board, and damn proud of it. He makes it known to all who believe otherwise that there is no God. Just in the same manner that a staunch Christian lets all who believe otherwise that Jesus is the savior of humanity. In fact, I believe that some atheists make atheism their religion. Their champion? In my humble opinion, it's themselves. They are the saviors of their religion, destined to free humanity from the chains of your traditional religions. I think this makes sense because, like Mr. Blonde, most atheists are extremely self-righteous.

Once again, not all atheists probably fit in this mold, but I'm sure you can see a pattern starting to form. It appears that human beings have no choice but to believe in something bigger than themselves...or at least bigger than everyone else if they are themselves the champions of the religion.

If all human beings have some form of a religion, this begs the questions, why must all humans believe in something bigger than themselves? Are we biologically wired to do so because it is the only way we are able to cope with our lives, our existence, and the concept of death? Or is it because our mysterious God created us in this fashion because there is in fact a God that created us?

The final thought I want to leave you with is what may hold the answer to these questions, and much, much more. Am I, Der Fuhrer, God? The answer is yes. I accept worship through PayPal, electronic check, credit or debit card. You all go to hell if I don't have enough worship to buy a jet ski for this summer.

Amen, blessed am I. Bow before me. Give me your women. Give me your worship. In Der Fuhrer's name we pray, Amen.

[Ugly Bastard]

See... this 'Porn for Bibles' Exchange Riles Texas Campus : World : Canoe TV is fucking ridiculous. What these idiot "atheist crusaders!" don't realize is they're acting as the strongest force and argument in favor of religion. I mean honestly, what a bunch of dumb fucks. Get over your fear and intimidation of religion and just accept it as a story some people have to believe in order to cope with life. The more breathing room you give them the better chance they'll eventually realize they don't need their beliefs to cope. I mean it's no fucking wonder there's people out there "clinging to religion" as Obama put it; seeing a bunch of dumb fucks give out porn in exchange for religious text makes me halfway understand why someone might choose to believe in a higher power.

[BigDongedHoe]

Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard

seeing a bunch of dumb fucks give out porn in exchange for religious text makes me halfway understand why someone might choose to believe in a higher power.

Or because He is real

[Ugly Bastard]

BDH can you please not do that here?

[BigDongedHoe]

Blonde's gone... I won't be told I'm a horrible person for my faith in God anymore!!

[Fruitacious B]

If someone offered me porn for a bible, I might be more inclined to believe in a higher power...

[Der Fuhrer]

BigDongedHoe, is your God cool with Sex Kitten MILF fuck? Does he approve of your activities? Listed are BDH's activities under his profile: Getting Head, Eating Pussy, Fucking Pussy, Fucking your mom's......Pussy, Getting Handjobs, Giving.

One thing that troubles me is the end of your list, "Giving". What do you give? Presents? Money? Time? While these could be possibilities, judging by the context of your other activities I'm going to assume it's giving handjobs. I guess it could be giving head, but I don't really know you that well.

An aside: As many of you know and have accepted me as your Christ, I'd like to remind you that summer is rapidly approaching. I will damn you all to hell if I don't receive enough worship to buy a fucking jet ski.

[BigDongedHoe]

No... I also know he's not really concerned with what I wrote on my interests in 2002 8 years ago when I was a junior in high school well before I was ever a believer.

[Der Fuhrer]

Did you give a lot of handjobs back in high-school?

[DJ FC]

Originally Posted by BigDongedHoe

Blonde's gone... I won't be told I'm a horrible person for my faith in God anymore!!

I guess I'll have to step up then. And normally I don't give a shit. But for you to do this on nubblies is disgraceful. Go pray.

[THEINCREDIBLEdork]

Go to your room.

Get on your fucking knees.

Kneel in front of your bed.

Put your hands together.

And pray, faggot.