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Mr. Blonde · 09-07-2010, 02:00 AM

RealClearPolitics - Obama's Undefined Presidency

Ugly Bastard · 09-07-2010, 01:29 PM

Obama has been such a huge disappointment to anyone who thought he might truly do some revolutionary things for humanity.

DDTempest · 09-07-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard

Obama has been such a huge disappointment to anyone who thought he might truly do some revolutionary things for humanity.

Was talking to Blonde the other night about this. I think his overall failure has gone even further than that. If someone with so much "hope" and momentum behind them could accomplish so little as president, it has to undermine what the general public will think of the next guy that comes along. At this point the next election will break down with a lot of voters saying "doesn't matter who's elected, nothing will change anyway" and giving up on the process all together.

f3lix · 09-07-2010, 02:09 PM

Personally, I'm thrilled that he's not accomplishing his worthless missions.

Beebs · 09-07-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by f3lix

Personally, I'm thrilled that he's not accomplishing his worthless missions.

A thousand times yes.

DJ FC · 09-07-2010, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard

Obama has been such a huge disappointment to anyone who thought he might truly do some revolutionary things for humanity.

Not dissapointing to me. I'm glad he's getting nothing done. Except the war. I wish he'd end that.

Mr. Blonde · 09-07-2010, 07:02 PM

Which one?

AP: 'Combat in Iraq is not over, and we should not uncritically repeat suggestions that it is'

Ugly Bastard · 09-07-2010, 11:09 PM

I didn't know what other thread to put this in.

Something that bothers me about a lot of liberal-minded types in our society is how much they whine about injustices but then make consumer decisions that only promote these perceived injustices. It's just very elitist and hypocritical. Example: white people who whine about blue-collar types that barely put food on the table in their profession of logging. "I don't like tree killers," they might say. But then these same white people of course want nice hardwood flooring in their huge new home that they're building. It's like, don't you fucking idiots get it? The only reason those guys are out there cutting down trees is because people like you buy wood! I feel like most of these people that I'm referring to have little awareness of the depth and scope of the hypocrisy by which they lead their lives every day. They get off on living a lifestyle that allows them to feel better than other people and have the nerve to condemn the very working class types who did things that catered to their excessive tastes.

Der Fuhrer · 09-08-2010, 12:10 AM

Why are they white UB? Racist bastard.

Der Fuhrer · 09-08-2010, 12:22 AM

Making another post so the edit Nazi doesn't jump on my nuts.

Speaking of the logic that UB so eloquently put forth, do those same types of people not understand that it's in the logging company's interest to maintain a sustainable agro-forestry operation? If they just "killed" all the trees without regrowing them, would they not eventually run out of raw materials? I mean come on, it's not rocket science. Even if they could perpetually move from location to location cutting down trees, the costs associated with operations such as that would certainly run the logging company into the ground.

Furthermore, do they enjoy having a house? A nice, open backyard? Do they like the highways that they drive on? How about the food that they eat? What about the malls that they shop at? All of these things would not exist if we didn't cut down the fucking trees. The hypocrisy of these Al Gore types is aggravating to say the least. The left-wing politicians are certainly no better. There is a book about this type of mentality that is so apparent in left-wingers (the politicians most notably) it's called, "Do As I Say, Not As I Do".

Mr. Blonde · 09-08-2010, 12:27 AM

Consumerist liberals make themselves look pretty bad in that aspect, UB. Reminds me of the "Smug Alert" South Park episode.

In regard to Der Fuhrers comment:

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..it's in the logging company's interest to maintain a sustainable agro-forestry operation? If they just "killed" all the trees without regrowing them, would they not eventually run out of raw materials? I mean come on, it's not rocket science.

Indeed, it's not, yet we don't see a ridiculous amount of safe, responsible logging going on (without government regulation). And I find it hard to believe these companies would spend a ridiculous amount of money making sure they aren't wreaking havoc on the soil and replanting trees if legislation didn't make them.

Mr. Blonde · 09-08-2010, 12:36 AM

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Furthermore, do they enjoy having a house? A nice, open backyard? Do they like the highways that they drive on? How about the food that they eat? What about the malls that they shop at? All of these things would not exist if we didn't cut down the fucking trees.

Nobody is arguing that cutting down trees isn't a necessary evil---to an extent. We are pretty developed now, and a lot of building projects can be completed without being constructed completely out of wood. Concrete, for example. Even better, something like megacrete.

Backyards are essentially a waste of space and money, especially ones with grass. HUGE unnecessary waste of water, when parks are readily available. We should keep them to a relatively minimum size. Not to infringe on your liberty to have a half-acre backyard that you don't use for anything but grilling out.

Highways, also necessary. But those are lines, which can (and should) be fully surrounded by either trees or fields.

Which brings us back to the issue of overpopulation and the agricultural land needed to sustain such populations. You may not think the world is overpopulated, but when hundreds of millions of people are starving on a daily basis, while Americans get fatter and fatter, I beg to differ.

I'm sure the world COULD sustain more people agriculturally, but my point is, why should we keep pushing population growth when we can't even properly take care of the populations we (humans) have already?

All this being said, going green is still hard. We're just going to need better technology. It's not that practical right now, even though it might be immediately necessary (only the future will tell). The creator of Dilbert wrote up his experience on it here, it's pretty good.

EDIT: Also, I fucking hate malls.

Ugly Bastard · 09-08-2010, 12:51 AM

Wired magazine did a pretty good article like a year or so ago that challenged a lot of conventional wisdom wrt going green. The jist of it was basically that humans living in large cities in warm climates is a good thing bc less greenhouse gases emitted overall when we're huddled up in a dense mass vs. being spread out and running a/c isn't nearly as damaging to the environment as running a heater. I think they said heating a house emits something like 4x the amount of greenhouse gases as cooling a house does.

Beebs · 09-08-2010, 09:25 AM

The difference between a developer and conservationist is that the conservationist already has his house in the mountains.

DDTempest · 09-09-2010, 10:17 PM

Disappointing video ... Obama may be the actual the anti-christ

YouTube

vaga1220 * · 09-10-2010, 02:13 PM

Well... that's some shit.

thekremlin · 10-08-2010, 06:11 AM

This is so bizarre, has to be unprecedented right?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/bu...ref=technology

Beebs · 10-08-2010, 07:31 AM

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This is so bizarre, has to be unprecedented right?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/bu...ref=technology

Don't blame them for not wanting to be painted with the same brush.

Dent · 10-14-2010, 06:20 PM

At Least One Candidate for Congress Has Fellated a Reindeer Dildo Nose -- Daily Intel

YouTube

Orgazmo · 10-14-2010, 06:25 PM

It's...sexist? I think people would care even more had it been a dude sucking a red dildo nose.

f3lix · 10-14-2010, 07:02 PM

Stupid bitch. These photos are great for her. Free press, she gets to come out and say that this is what is wrong with politics today, and then she decides it's sexist. Dumb, dumb, dumb cunt.

Ugly Bastard · 10-14-2010, 07:05 PM

And when your last name is Ball, what are you thinking when you name your daughter Krystal?

f3lix · 10-14-2010, 07:08 PM

I'm amazed at how pathetic people are. Why do these photos even matter? So the girl can have a good time. Big fucking deal. I'd rather have seen that and her say that she can have a good time then have her react like a prude. Politicians really need to stop taking themselves so seriously and voters need to vote for what actually matters.

Beebs · 10-14-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard

And when your last name is Ball, what are you thinking when you name your daughter Krystal?

"Man, I really want some more coke"

Beebs · 10-14-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by f3lix

I'm amazed at how pathetic people are. Why do these photos even matter? So the girl can have a good time. Big fucking deal. I'd rather have seen that and her say that she can have a good time then have her react like a prude. Politicians really need to stop taking themselves so seriously and voters need to vote for what actually matters.

It is annoying.

The fact that this is taken as anything at all is incredibly damning of the voting public.

09-07-2010, 02:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
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09-07-2010, 01:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Obama has been such a huge disappointment to anyone who thought he might truly do some revolutionary things for humanity.

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09-07-2010, 11:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	I didn't know what other thread to put this in. Something that bothers me about a lot of liberal-minded types in our society is how much they whine about injustices but then make consumer decisions that only promote these perceived injustices. It's just very elitist and hypocritical. Example: white people who whine about blue-collar types that barely put food on the table in their profession of logging. "I don't like tree killers," they might say. But then these same white people of course want nice hardwood flooring in their huge new home that they're building. It's like, don't you fucking idiots get it? The only reason those guys are out there cutting down trees is because people like you buy wood! I feel like most of these people that I'm referring to have little awareness of the depth and scope of the hypocrisy by which they lead their lives every day. They get off on living a lifestyle that allows them to feel better than other people and have the nerve to condemn the very working class types who did things that catered to their excessive tastes.

09-08-2010, 12:10 AM	#9 (permalink)
Der Fuhrer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 549 Internets: 5464	Why are they white UB? Racist bastard.

09-08-2010, 12:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
Der Fuhrer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 549 Internets: 5464	Making another post so the edit Nazi doesn't jump on my nuts. Speaking of the logic that UB so eloquently put forth, do those same types of people not understand that it's in the logging company's interest to maintain a sustainable agro-forestry operation? If they just "killed" all the trees without regrowing them, would they not eventually run out of raw materials? I mean come on, it's not rocket science. Even if they could perpetually move from location to location cutting down trees, the costs associated with operations such as that would certainly run the logging company into the ground. Furthermore, do they enjoy having a house? A nice, open backyard? Do they like the highways that they drive on? How about the food that they eat? What about the malls that they shop at? All of these things would not exist if we didn't cut down the fucking trees. The hypocrisy of these Al Gore types is aggravating to say the least. The left-wing politicians are certainly no better. There is a book about this type of mentality that is so apparent in left-wingers (the politicians most notably) it's called, "Do As I Say, Not As I Do".

09-08-2010, 12:51 AM	#13 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Wired magazine did a pretty good article like a year or so ago that challenged a lot of conventional wisdom wrt going green. The jist of it was basically that humans living in large cities in warm climates is a good thing bc less greenhouse gases emitted overall when we're huddled up in a dense mass vs. being spread out and running a/c isn't nearly as damaging to the environment as running a heater. I think they said heating a house emits something like 4x the amount of greenhouse gases as cooling a house does.

09-08-2010, 09:25 AM	#14 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	The difference between a developer and conservationist is that the conservationist already has his house in the mountains.

10-08-2010, 06:11 AM	#17 (permalink)
thekremlin Don't call me Shirley Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: London Posts: 3,271 Internets: 220249	This is so bizarre, has to be unprecedented right? http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/bu...ref=technology

10-14-2010, 06:25 PM	#20 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,699 Internets: 305662	It's...sexist? I think people would care even more had it been a dude sucking a red dildo nose.

10-14-2010, 07:02 PM	#21 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	Stupid bitch. These photos are great for her. Free press, she gets to come out and say that this is what is wrong with politics today, and then she decides it's sexist. Dumb, dumb, dumb cunt.

10-14-2010, 07:05 PM	#22 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	And when your last name is Ball, what are you thinking when you name your daughter Krystal?

10-14-2010, 07:08 PM	#23 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	I'm amazed at how pathetic people are. Why do these photos even matter? So the girl can have a good time. Big fucking deal. I'd rather have seen that and her say that she can have a good time then have her react like a prude. Politicians really need to stop taking themselves so seriously and voters need to vote for what actually matters.